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    It's not in the forms

    A: The WC system doesn't have "hip throw".
    B: There are over 20 + kind of "hip throw" in WC. They are just not in the WC forms.

    A: The Taiji system doesn't have "flying side kick".
    B: There are over 20 + kind of "flying side kick" in Taiji. They are just not in the Taiji forms.

    A: The longfist system doesn't have "flying knee".
    B: There are over 20 + kind of "flying knee" in longfist. They are just not in the longfist forms.

    Who is right? A or B?

    How will you be able to know that a certain technique is not from "cross training" if it's not in the forms? Your thought?
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    How will you be able to know that a certain technique is not from "cross training" if it's not in the forms? Your thought?
    Have a legit teacher and pay attention?

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    How do you know a teacher is legit? Is lineage enough? Does that guarantee there was no cross training? How do you know your sigung didn't add stuff? Define legit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn7 View Post
    Define legit.

    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    This is 100% TCMA principle. It may be used in non-TCMA also. Since I did learn it from TCMA, I have to say it's TCMA principle.
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    We should not use "TCMA is more than combat" as excuse for not "evolving".

    You can have Kung Fu in cooking, it really has nothing to do with fighting!

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    Hammer Fist?

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    Too legit to quit....
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    This is 100% TCMA principle. It may be used in non-TCMA also. Since I did learn it from TCMA, I have to say it's TCMA principle.
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    We should not use "TCMA is more than combat" as excuse for not "evolving".

    You can have Kung Fu in cooking, it really has nothing to do with fighting!

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    It seems that when you become a student of principles, styles matter less and less.
    The 10 Elements of Choy Lay Fut:
    Kum, Na, Gwa, Sau, Chop, Pow, Kup, Biu, Ding, Jong

    The 13 Principles of Taijiquan:
    Ward Off, Roll Back, Press, Push, Pluck, Elbow, Shoulder, Split, Forward, Back, Left, Right, Central Equilibrium

    And it doesn't hurt to practice stuff from:
    Mounts, Guards, and Side Mounts!


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    Quote Originally Posted by yutyeesam View Post
    It seems that when you become a student of principles, styles matter less and less.
    There you go.
    Kung Fu is good for you.

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    This reminds me of this scene
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0dPKs3qwz0
    "All the skill in the world won't hold up to a real confrontation if you are too afraid to use it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Skill View Post
    This reminds me of this scene
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0dPKs3qwz0
    this is more realistic
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HLO3vmbmXM

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    it's not in the forms

    Quote Originally Posted by -N- View Post
    Have a legit teacher and pay attention?
    So if you say it ' s not the forms then ? Then what you really mean is work closely with the sifu himself and ask him questions then right ? Or esle how do you really expect to learn something from the sifu right ?

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    If you are a style founder, and you have created 10 forms for the system that you have created. Is there any reason that you don't want to include some of the most important piece of information in your forms?
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    If you are a style founder, and you have created 10 forms for the system that you have created. Is there any reason that you don't want to include some of the most important piece of information in your forms?
    To hide the "real" stuff.

    First give me 20k baishifei then I might tell you a bit more.
    Last edited by xinyidizi; 08-08-2013 at 12:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    If you are a style founder, and you have created 10 forms for the system that you have created. Is there any reason that you don't want to include some of the most important piece of information in your forms?
    Some stuff doesn't translate well in forms....like most grappling, for instance...
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    This is 100% TCMA principle. It may be used in non-TCMA also. Since I did learn it from TCMA, I have to say it's TCMA principle.
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    We should not use "TCMA is more than combat" as excuse for not "evolving".

    You can have Kung Fu in cooking, it really has nothing to do with fighting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    If you are a style founder, and you have created 10 forms for the system that you have created. Is there any reason that you don't want to include some of the most important piece of information in your forms?
    mongols were the fiercest warriors but they didn't train boxing, only shuai Jiao. are the mongols "incomplete" in their training?

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