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    Quote Originally Posted by 18elders View Post
    it's easy to make an assumption on an art you have no clue about.
    seems you like to troll all the boards and say how everyone else sucks.
    He said a bagua teacher told him. I don't think that counts as trolling if thats true. He was just taking an instructors word for it. Blame the bagua guy for being misinformed if anything.

    Again...if its true HAHAHAHA

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    I do see similarity between the following 2 postures.

    http://imageshack.us/a/img194/7194/npr0.jpg
    http://imageshack.us/a/img827/5639/68ux.jpg

    If the founder of Cheng style Bagua system had "cross trained" the SC system, There was a high possibility that my Bagua instructor friend told me could be true.

    http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%A8%...BB%B7%E8%8F%AF

    程廷華(1848年-1900年,字應芳,河北省深縣程家村人,董海川之徒,為程派八卦掌的創始者

    程廷華自幼愛好武術,精通摔跤,因生計入京為學徒,後在北京崇文門外花市四條開設眼鏡舖,綽號「眼鏡程」。

    Cheng Tinghua (1848-1900), Ying Fang, Shen County, Hebei province chengjiacun people of Dong Haichuan, He was the Cheng style Bagua founder.

    Cheng Tinghua hobby martial arts since childhood, mastered in Chinese wrestling, living in
    Beijing as an apprentice, he opened a glasses shop outside of the Beijing chongwenmen, nicknamed "Eye Glasses Cheng".
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    I do see similarity between the following 2 postures.

    http://imageshack.us/a/img194/7194/npr0.jpg
    http://imageshack.us/a/img827/5639/68ux.jpg

    If the founder of Cheng style Bagua system had "cross trained" the SC system, There was a high possibility that my Bagua instructor friend told me could be true.

    http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%A8%...BB%B7%E8%8F%AF

    程廷華(1848年-1900年,字應芳,河北省深縣程家村人,董海川之徒,為程派八卦掌的創始者

    程廷華自幼愛好武術,精通摔跤,因生計入京為學徒,後在北京崇文門外花市四條開設眼鏡舖,綽號「眼鏡程」。

    Cheng Tinghua (1848-1900), Ying Fang, Shen County, Hebei province chengjiacun people of Dong Haichuan, He was the Cheng style Bagua founder.

    Cheng Tinghua hobby martial arts since childhood, mastered in Chinese wrestling, living in
    Beijing as an apprentice, he opened a glasses shop outside of the Beijing chongwenmen, nicknamed "Eye Glasses Cheng".

    Cheng Ting Hua was a Shuai Jiao master before meeting Dong Hai Quan and learning ba gua.

    Those pictures look similar but they are not. The ba gua guy has his leg closer to him because it connects his movement to the low back/Dan tien/core. The next move in the form is bai bu(step out) which would yield a different application than the sj pic. The sj pic application is one you know.

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    I don't have any proof. A Bagua instructor told me that.

    oh........

    but quoting a text that states he trained in SC does give pause to think he might of been influenced in his interpretations of Bagua.

    now on that note the postures have some similarity but in the end falls to the intent and interpretation which there are many, many, many mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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    bagua was created by a eunuch. train like a eunuch, and you will obtain the characterstics of a eunuch.

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    Being a eunuch doesn't make someone unqualified to Kick ass Bawang. Zheng Hi was a eunuch and commanded the greatest fleet the Ming empire ever put forth.

    Most all men who were in the inner court and serving the Emperor were eunuchs.

    If the characteristics of a Eunuch are this level of accomplishment, perhaps you've forgotten something in your training? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    I found this picture in another forum.

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...46859185_n.jpg

    The Bagua system may be the most controversial TCMA system that exist on this planet. This is a good example that when you mix "combat" and "health", it may not always make sense. It's not hard to see from the following pictures.

    Will you stand in front of your opponent like this in combat? If you don't, why do you want to spend time to train it? Besides wasting your training time, the moment that you have developed "bad habit" like this, it's very difficult to remove it later on.

    Your thought?
    Do you stand like this in front of an attacker?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Córdoba View Post
    Do you stand like this in front of an attacker?
    I train abs standing up

    PROBLEM SOLVED

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    The most controversial TCMA system? Seriously?

    You got two pages on "The most controversial TCMA system" here and I doubt it'll get that much longer (unless we hijack it with cosplay hottie pics ).

    IS-Dfr has 1252 pages at this count.

    WC has a whole god****ed subforum.

    Bagua ain't even in the ballpark when it comes to 'most controversial', YouKnowWho.

    Man, I should start a thread about how to properly title threads.
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    I think wombat combat is the most controversial tcma system.

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    Of course you do

    Please take that up on the wombat combat thread, which at this point is only six posts deep.

    That's right. Controversy is measured by how many members bother to post around here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneChing View Post
    You got two pages on "The most controversial TCMA system" here and I doubt it'll get that much longer (unless we hijack it with cosplay hottie pics ).
    This thread is for those who is interested only.

    Unless you train "foot sweep", otherwise you may not care about this subject. When you train your foot sweep, you will notice that when and where you and your opponent may land that foot is very important.

    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDkyMTIzMDE2.html

    You just don't want to give your opponent a chance to do so. The problem is after you have developed your "cross legs" bad habit, it's difficult to remove it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    This thread is for those who is interested only.
    Sweet Hendrick reference...he's got jokes.... :P
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    This is 100% TCMA principle. It may be used in non-TCMA also. Since I did learn it from TCMA, I have to say it's TCMA principle.
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    We should not use "TCMA is more than combat" as excuse for not "evolving".

    You can have Kung Fu in cooking, it really has nothing to do with fighting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneChing View Post
    (unless we hijack it with cosplay hottie pics ).
    I just googled Kung fu hottie and every image with a hottie holding a sword is from this forum

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