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    This is certainly what TCMA needs, but I hope these guys have done fight training...I didn't see anything about the fight records of the Chinese guys, just push hands and such...I don't see how you can expect someone with no fights to go against someone with a hundred pro bouts?
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    This is 100% TCMA principle. It may be used in non-TCMA also. Since I did learn it from TCMA, I have to say it's TCMA principle.
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    Will be a gamechanger in the world of MMA if the Chen Taiji boxers hold their own!

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    The problem is if China can find their best Sanda fighters and beat the sh!t out of those MT fighters, it still doesn't prove anything about the effectiveness of Chen Taiji. It can only prove that Sanda training is effective.
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    Exciting! I hope that the results get posted here.

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    Chen Taji teacher just opened shop in my town last month. If Chinese win 3 of the 5 fights, maybe I will go check him out....
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    Oh, snap!! Get the popcorn ready!

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    The problem is if China can find their best Sanda fighters and beat the sh!t out of those MT fighters, it still doesn't prove anything about the effectiveness of Chen Taiji. It can only prove that Sanda training is effective.
    you think they will cheat right? and get some sanda guys to learn a little form and dressing in white silk,pose as chen guys? that's what i'm think too. or they will have fixed matches,they do it all the time. my boy yao,mma fighter with a shuai jiao background fought in a well know martial art show. they taught him a little form and made him say he was from a traditional background,after two real fights he had to throw the last one cause his opponents was a student of the host of the show.
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    They are not sanda guys. They are Chen guys for sure and I know two of them but I don't know if the matches are going to be fixed. I don't think that they will be but we shall see.
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    The thing is... Taiji in its very nature is defensive. Literally lacking in offensive attacking skills. Where as MT obviously has this by the truck load.

    Any Taiji is not suited to fight with a goal of winning vs a MT guy.

    It should be for defense only.


    In any case, my opinion is that the Taiji guys HAVE to grapple if they want to survive at all.... if they try to stand toe to toe and trade strikes ( ie. allowing their opponent to swing away unmolested), then they are TOAST.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subitai View Post
    The thing is... Taiji in its very nature is defensive. Literally lacking in offensive attacking skills. Where as MT obviously has this by the truck load.

    Any Taiji is not suited to fight with a goal of winning vs a MT guy.

    It should be for defense only.


    In any case, my opinion is that the Taiji guys HAVE to grapple if they want to survive at all.... if they try to stand toe to toe and trade strikes ( ie. allowing their opponent to swing away unmolested), then they are TOAST.

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    the thing is, taiji is fake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PalmStriker View Post
    Has no one here fought with a Taiji Master?
    This can be a good survey. Starting from me, I have not met any Taiji guy who was interesting in "fighting" yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PalmStriker View Post
    Has no one here fought with a Taiji Master?
    Lol...no...I don't think you'll find anyone who has...
    Last edited by Kellen Bassette; 09-15-2013 at 05:46 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    This is 100% TCMA principle. It may be used in non-TCMA also. Since I did learn it from TCMA, I have to say it's TCMA principle.
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    We should not use "TCMA is more than combat" as excuse for not "evolving".

    You can have Kung Fu in cooking, it really has nothing to do with fighting!

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    Let's be honest here. Will you pick up Taiji as your "primary" system if you are interested in combat?

    If your answer is yes, why? If your answer is no, why?
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    chen free style push hands is a rough sport. i have competed in judo ,karate and jujutsu and push hands competitions, and the only time i got injured was doing a chen style moving push hands comp.

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