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[Neil-Y]

Hi all

I'm new to the Forum but not to Ving Tsun. I just wanted to take the opportunity to introduce myself and hopefully add something to the Forum.

I trained for many years under Samuel Kwok eventually becoming an instructor and have had my own club for just over a year. My main focus was really Ip Chings method.

However earlier this year I started to become disillusioned with the Ving Tsun I was learning and teaching. Mainly when trying to apply what I had learnt into free sparring. Quite simply outside of chi sau with people who trained the same way it just didn't work!

Fortunately I started training with Graham H who I'm sure some of you know from this Forum and started learning Philipp Bayer Ving Tsun from him. I have to say I was blown away. I thought my VT was Ok but I was shown otherwise. And thank god I have made the transition.


N

[LaRoux]

Hi all

I'm new to the Forum but not to Ving Tsun. I just wanted to take the opportunity to introduce myself and hopefully add something to the Forum.

I trained for many years under Samuel Kwok eventually becoming an instructor and have had my own club for just over a year. My main focus was really Ip Chings method.

However earlier this year I started to become disillusioned with the Ving Tsun I was learning and teaching. Mainly when trying to apply what I had learnt into free sparring. Quite simply outside of chi sau with people who trained the same way it just didn't work!

Fortunately I started training with Graham H who I'm sure some of you know from this Forum and started learning Philipp Bayer Ving Tsun from him. I have to say I was blown away. I thought my VT was Ok but I was shown otherwise. And thank god I have made the transition.


N

Maybe you can post some of these sparring clips since no one else from this lineage has ever been able to.

[Neil-Y]

Maybe you can post some of these sparring clips since no one else from this lineage has ever been able to.

What clips and what lineage?

[LaRoux]

What clips and what lineage?

Clips of you free sparring with the things you have learned from the PB lineage.

[Neil-Y]

Clips of you free sparring with the things you have learned from the PB lineage.

I didn't say I had taken clips. These things are far better experienced in person. I know everyone thinks that there way is the best but having seen both sides now now I have absolutely no doubt in my mind.

[LaRoux]

I didn't say I had taken clips. These things are far better experienced in person. I know everyone thinks that there way is the best but having seen both sides now now I have absolutely no doubt in my mind.

Oh, another PB person who "spars", but has no evidence of that. Just like the rest of them. Ho-hum. Whatever.

[slick69]

I didn't say I had taken clips. These things are far better experienced in person. I know everyone thinks that there way is the best but having seen both sides now now I have absolutely no doubt in my mind.

Both sides? Why not more sides? Did you test with others outside of Bayer?

[Neil-Y]

Come on in, the water's lovely.

Did you bring a tin helmet?

Oh and can I thank T-Ray for pointing me in the right direction!