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    This forms / style

    Hello people, well, i found this on YT and i'd like to know if someone here could tell me what style is, or if it's just a free-flow with some weapons

    Thank you very much
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myZSH9KrYnQ

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    Exhibition WuShu .

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    Greetings,

    I wouldn't call it wushu. He is pretty polished. His name: Fu Shun Nan.

    At 1:27 in the following link he is doing what looks like Cha Chuan. It is very well done, without the wushu flair. Taken in South Africa:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgB_hDxselY

    I guess he put those up himself. Try contacting him thru u tube.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PalmStriker View Post
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    When he left China and moved to Taiwan with his father back in 1948, The WuShu was not even born in China yet. His TCMA has zero influence from the modern WuShu.

    Quote Originally Posted by mickey View Post
    Greetings,

    I wouldn't call it wushu. He is pretty polished. His name: Fu Shun Nan.

    At 1:27 in the following link he is doing what looks like Cha Chuan. It is very well done, without the wushu flair. Taken in South Africa:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgB_hDxselY

    I guess he put those up himself. Try contacting him thru u tube.


    mickey
    傅松南: Fu Song Nan learned from his father 傅嘉賔:Fu Jia Bin when he was young. His father was a big strong guy and famous in Guan Dao.

    https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...5164369&type=3

    In Taiwan he became the longfist GM Han Chin-Tang's disciple.

    Here is a clip when he was much younger.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaNj...ature=youtu.be

    Last time when he was in my house that was almost 30 years ago. He wrote 3 books about he traveled with his father in Taiwan by performing TCMA on the street for living. He had performed in circus and traveled around the world. He taught in Beijing opera school in Taiwan for many years. He is the guy who can tell you many interested TCMA stories.
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    Greetings,

    That was great info, YouKnowWho.

    That would make Fu Shun Nan the go to guy to learn Shaolin Long Fist. His approach/flavor is much different from other practitioners that I have seen in the Han Ching Tan lineage. It is more spirited. I like it very much.

    Do you Know what style his father practiced?


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    looks like North Shaolin usage.

    I think this is probably pek kwar dao.
    Just a guess, but it has the hallmarks.
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    Whatever he learned from Han Ching-Tan would have been from the Cha Quan and/or Mei Hua Quan Long Fist styles.

    It has no connection to the mainland China Standardized performance wushu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Whatever he learned from Han Ching-Tan would have been from the Cha Quan and/or Mei Hua Quan Long Fist styles.

    It has no connection to the mainland China Standardized performance wushu.
    standard wushu comes from cha quan

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    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    standard wushu comes from cha quan
    And Hua. You are correct.
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    Professional Chinese conetmporary wushu players are much better than those old traditional guys - at least at forms. Modern forms are infinitely superior, the athletes massively fitter, stronger, more flexible, more agile and more technically skilled. When I see old videos like this, I just see something that is waiting to evolve into proper wushu forms by becoming faster, stronger, more technically challenging and more well trained, thanks to the government investing massively in the development of this skill base. Yet, we have to listen all the time to the nonsense that the Chinese government killed wushu, and that the real wushu is infinitely inferior athletes. That makes me laugh all day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miqi View Post
    Professional Chinese conetmporary wushu players are much better than those old traditional guys - at least at forms. Modern forms are infinitely superior, the athletes massively fitter, stronger, more flexible, more agile and more technically skilled. When I see old videos like this, I just see something that is waiting to evolve into proper wushu forms by becoming faster, stronger, more technically challenging and more well trained, thanks to the government investing massively in the development of this skill base. Yet, we have to listen all the time to the nonsense that the Chinese government killed wushu, and that the real wushu is infinitely inferior athletes. That makes me laugh all day.
    contemporary wushu does take athletic skill.
    It doesn't offer any fight venues and there is certainly not much within the acrobatics that can be extrapolated out into drills and roadwork etc that one would find more useful for the task of actually fighting.

    Contemporary wushu is gymnastics with martial flavour for the most part.
    Old kung fu is ugly and boring because that's what fighting is. Well, ugly anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mickey View Post
    Do you Know what style his father practiced?
    I believe it was the northern Shaolin system (longfist, Lohan, ...).

    His Da Dao clip.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBlLk-YoAkU

    His open hand class.

    http://www.wretch.cc/blog/a710067/13118026

    The 3 books he wrote.

    http://www.silkbook.com/search_resul...%B3%C5%AAQ%ABn

    http://news.gpwb.gov.tw/book.aspx?yd...fL3seG3oXi4%3D

    This was my longfist teacher (middle) and Fu's (left) picture (taken by 1954 in Taipei).

    http://longfist.files.wordpress.com/...5531329812.jpg
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    Greetings,

    Thank you YouKnowWho.

    I would take that guy over ANY wushu player produced in the last 35 years. It shouldn't be that way but it is that way. I have always recommended the wushu basic training curriculum. The weight lifting component was not introduced to the West; but, it was pretty obvious that the wushu guys did something beyond stretch, punch and kick. bawang has been ringing the bell about this for quite a while. He is right.

    mickey

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    When he left China and moved to Taiwan with his father back in 1948, The WuShu was not even born in China yet. His TCMA has zero influence from the modern WuShu.
    was his father the guy that had a falling out with jie wanshan?

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