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    跤绊 - Shuai Chiao Techniques

    I have found some very interest SC technique training clips. One can almost learn directly from it if training partner is available.

    Your thought?

    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDkyMTIyNjQw.html
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    Greetings,

    The first technique looked a little collegiate to me, especially with the bridge: he has no finish. The variations the master shows are more combative because they disengage the opponent.

    As far as the camera work, I like it very much. Multiple angles and detailed instruction are the way to do it.


    mickey

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    I saw my teacher demonstrated this move once. According to the SC rule, if your body touch the ground first, you lose that round, even if you may throw your opponent afterward. In order to not let your body to touch on the ground, your body has to bend backward in an arc. The part of your body that land on your opponent do not count as land on the ground. This make this SC technique very challenged to train.

    This technique just remind me the BJJ "pull guard". If you can apply "pull guard" without letting your body to touch the ground, you are a SC master. It's not that easy to achieve to that high level. This is just to play the "sport" rule to the extreme.

    The ground game "finish" is not part of the "sport SC".
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    Greetings YouKnowWho,

    I am always falling into your "trap".

    I think you are talking combatives only to find out you are really talking sport.

    You are too much!

    Thank you for the share.

    mickey

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickey View Post
    I think you are talking combatives only to find out you are really talking sport.
    I don't like to talk about sport but those clips are pure "sport", no punch, no kick, no follow on strike, no ground game. You throw your opponent on the ground. Your job is done.

    The following clips are not pure "sport". There is something after your throw.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obzmry1Iev8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i7g...ature=youtu.be
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    I have found some very interest SC technique training clips. One can almost learn directly from it if training partner is available.

    Your thought?

    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDkyMTIyNjQw.html
    Great clip and orientation to possible scenarios (situations/?) that one will encounter in real life. How will I counter? What will I do? Have I trained in scenarios to be prepared accordingly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mawali View Post
    Great clip and orientation to possible scenarios (situations/?) that one will encounter in real life. How will I counter? What will I do? Have I trained in scenarios to be prepared accordingly?
    In another thread, some people say that they don't train "scenarios". When they say that, they are looking this from the "striker" point of view. You may be a striker but your opponent may be a grappler. What your opponent may do on you is what you will need to train.

    Anybody from any style should be able to add "foot sweep" into his toolbox. It can be the "most" useful tool that one will use in his life time.

    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDkyMTIzMDE2.html
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    In the following clip, you can see that the "stand up" grappling has been trained to the extreme. You bend your body backward in a curve to avoid touching the ground.

    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDkyMTI0NjIw.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    I have found some very interest SC technique training clips. One can almost learn directly from it if training partner is available.

    Your thought?

    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDkyMTIyNjQw.html
    I found this instructor well versed in the art of teaching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    The ground game "finish" is not part of the "sport SC".
    Maybe not, but there are options once you get into that position if you were so inclined. If you do keep going from there, you are in a pretty good position. Turn in and do what you gotta. I learned that, and variations of that, in high school wrestling. There is a 5 point version from that position too.

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    Here is a nice clip for the SC break fall training.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYwq...ature=youtu.be
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    Here is a nice clip for the SC break fall training.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYwq...ature=youtu.be
    Nice, we do some of that in our training.
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