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    Boxing Guard

    Some people believe that the boxing guard is the best guard to be used in combat. How will you know that your opponent's next move is either to punch at your head, or to shoot at your leg/legs?

    Your thought?
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    NOT "boxing guard"

    Most boxing guard is totally wrong for any kicking (since there is no kicking in boxing)

    You need "Muay Thai hand position" but even this more modified... actually most like "Dutch Kickboxer guard"

    If you use your hands as wrestling defense, your diet will be all punches, elbows, knees and kicks

    Your feet and hips fight the wrestler
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    Quote Originally Posted by lkfmdc View Post
    You need "Muay Thai hand position" but even this more modified... actually most like "Dutch Kickboxer guard"
    What's the difference between the hand position in Thai MT and Dutch MT?
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    Some people believe that the boxing guard is the best guard to be used in combat. How will you know that your opponent's next move is either to punch at your head, or to shoot at your leg/legs?

    Your thought?
    boxing is one dimensional. You could say boxing has the best guard for boxing. If you throw any takedowns or kicks into the mix it changes the dynamics and you have to know those areas as well. That's why I always get upset with most TCMAs they come across that they have answers for all areas when they don't because they do not work all areas.
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    quick example
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    So basically a bit tighter and more closed than a traditional Thai guard...is this the style of guard you teach?
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    Dutch MT brought hands back into MT from my understanding
    Originally posted by Bawang
    i had an old taichi lady talk smack behind my back. i mean comon man, come on. if it was 200 years ago,, mebbe i wouldve smacked her and took all her monehs.
    Originally posted by Bawang
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    edit: woah was way too late on that
    I guess we are who we are

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonzbane76 View Post
    Dutch MT brought hands back into MT from my understanding
    Traditional Thai boxing gets a lot of criticism for the simplistic punching, but with the focus that is put on the clinch and the use of elbows, there's less time spent "boxing" than there would be in kick boxing formats that don't allow for continuous clinch fighting.
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    good fighters switch stance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    good fighters switch stance.
    Agreed. If your coordinated enough to pull off a take down or a head kick, there should be no reason you can't shift from weight on the front leg, to weight on the back leg, or sink in a live horse.
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    This is 100% TCMA principle. It may be used in non-TCMA also. Since I did learn it from TCMA, I have to say it's TCMA principle.
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    We should not use "TCMA is more than combat" as excuse for not "evolving".

    You can have Kung Fu in cooking, it really has nothing to do with fighting!

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    My favorite is Single Tiger in False leg for the surprise factors in attacking.

    And for defense double dragon hands in bow-arrow which is good for threading and sinking punches and kicks to set up for a hip throw (Felling Tree With Roots)

    Yes, gasp, I prefer kung fu techniques and footwork over boxing techniques and footwork. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    Some people believe that the boxing guard is the best guard to be used in combat. How will you know that your opponent's next move is either to punch at your head, or to shoot at your leg/legs?

    Your thought?
    1. Western boxing has very good exponents
    2. Western boxing guard is well respected and usually stands its own in national and international boxing events.
    3. Boxing is still a great skill through the available physical conditioning that has made it great over the century.

    One does not know what the opponent will do but boxer to boxer interaction usually have a generalized hunch on the plan of attack. Mixed boxing and wrestling, on the other hand (lile a street fight) depends on the versatility of those who go against the other. Usually mixed boxing/wrestling individuals tend to defeat boxers only because the former has more tools in the box to use against the latter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    Some people believe that the boxing guard is the best guard to be used in combat. How will you know that your opponent's next move is either to punch at your head, or to shoot at your leg/legs?

    Your thought?
    I always liked the FMA systems for defense. As far as knowing if your going to get attacked bye a punch to your head or a shoot to your legs you can use tell bye the level the attack is coming from as long as you keep enough distance to read your enemy.



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