Test your skill against other systems

[YouKnowWho]

What's the value to only test your skill against people from your own system? Will it be better to test your skill against people from other systems?

Your thought?

[-N-]

Do both.

Test skill with your own system to develop your system's specialty to a high level.

Train with others to understand their strengths and specialties.

You have to develop your SC against others with high level SC skill, but then you want to know how non-SC will try to gain advantage.

[YouKnowWho]

I like to wrestle with wrestlers more than Judo guys. The Judo guys just move too much like SC guys. I don't like to spar with longfist guys because I know pretty much what they will do. To me, if I spar/wrestle a guy who uses similar techniques as I do, there isn't much fun there. Without "fun", it defeats the purpose of TCMA training.

[Dragonzbane76]

you should always try and seek out those in other areas to supplement. all the previous statements I agree with. Be well rounded, know the strengths of others and fight the fight you know. I've found that in the TCMA community in particular many try to think that what they are given is the know all answer to fighting. There are many other systems outside the TCMA community that fight in totally different perspectives, which have vast knowledge in the gaps found within. I'm not degrading TCMA I'm just saying that one should look over the end of their own nose and see that there is always more to learn from others.

[Lee Chiang Po]

What's the value to only test your skill against people from your own system? Will it be better to test your skill against people from other systems?

Your thought?

Gung fu is a system that is supposed to give you an edge over an opponent. Fighting someone with your same skills can be difficult at best as he knows your moves too. In all my life I have never met another man that was trained in my fighting system, outside my own family. I tend to think it works best against other fighting systems, and most particularly against the untrained fellow that tends to want to box you. Everyone seems to have learned a few karate moves or some such, but only enough to get them into trouble. In about 40 years of using my skills I have not met anyone that was really trained to fight. I don't hang around gyms and dojos and kwoons either. In the 60's when I was in south vietnam I did meet a few mui thai fighters, but these little guys were a joke. I also knew some ROK guys that were into taikwando, but had no fear of them.

[YouKnowWho]

Fighting someone with your same skills can be difficult at best as he knows your moves too.

When you spar people in your own style, since your opponent is also very familiar with your set up, it makes your move harder to apply. Even people in the same system may use different strategy too.

[Kellen Bassette]

In about 40 years of using my skills I have not met anyone that was really trained to fight.

And we come to the heart of the problem.

[Dragonzbane76]

In about 40 years of using my skills I have not met anyone that was really trained to fight

you are really full of yourself.

[SPJ]

Two things

1. variation 2. combo

Even within the same system

It can be hard to deal with.

For example, there are five strikes in Tong bei. they are equated to five elements.

We do not do just one. Yes we may repeat the same strike left and right on and on.

We do two to three different strikes at top, mid and low back to back.

We may vary them in 24 ways or more randomly.

They are fakes, and set ups just to get close to throw.

For example, we do a right throw palm at top to invite the opponent to defend his top, while we introduce a left mid punch and low kick etc.

Our right throw palm may turn around to become a grab and pull hand.

Vary and combine your moves randomly.

On and on.

Change or vary your tactics and strategy with your moves even both you are in the same system.

Can be quite a challenge and fun.

[Robinhood]

What's the value to only test your skill against people from your own system? Will it be better to test your skill against people from other systems?

Your thought?

It depends on what you are trying to do, if you are ' trying to be stronger and faster, then other styles doing the same game will be benificial for your training.

[sanjuro_ronin]

What's the value to only test your skill against people from your own system? Will it be better to test your skill against people from other systems?

Your thought?

Know your enemy.

[sanjuro_ronin]

Gung fu is a system that is supposed to give you an edge over an opponent. Fighting someone with your same skills can be difficult at best as he knows your moves too. In all my life I have never met another man that was trained in my fighting system, outside my own family. I tend to think it works best against other fighting systems, and most particularly against the untrained fellow that tends to want to box you. Everyone seems to have learned a few karate moves or some such, but only enough to get them into trouble. In about 40 years of using my skills I have not met anyone that was really trained to fight. I don't hang around gyms and dojos and kwoons either. In the 60's when I was in south vietnam I did meet a few mui thai fighters, but these little guys were a joke. I also knew some ROK guys that were into taikwando, but had no fear of them.

It amazes me how you still try to sell yourself like this.
I admire your delusions !
They have quite the staying power.

[lkfmdc]

you are really full of ****

fixed that for you

[PalmStriker]

"Full of Stars?" Isn't that a line from 2001 A Space Odyssey?

[Syn7]

Know your enemy.

Word....... Engaging a giant unknown is reckless. I like to think I'm smarter than that. When I was like 15 I read the art of war for the first time, and that was one part that really stuck with me. Coupled with choosing your moments, if you know what I mean. Patience, changing tactics frequently, knowing when to be aggressive and when to be passive etc etc...

But as far as sparring is concerned, I welcome any style, or no style at all. I like to test myself against anyone willing. Within reason, of course. It's always nice to get a reality check. It's all progress. Nothing more frustrating than being completely shut down by a grappler though. Getting punched out is refreshing compared to having some cat manhandle you but not really hurting you.