I didnt know where to put this old topic i found on a forum on google Sorry for posting your old post Jim but i thought this topic was important about Leung Jans Wing Chun
Subject: Where did the real Leung Jan wing chun go? Author: Tam Bing Date: 5/25/2002 3:31:31 AM IP: 205.188.193.54
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Hi all wing chun sihingdai,
Currently there are so many people learning wing chun all over the southern China: Canton, Fatshan, Macus and Hong Kong. I have seen enongh to say that the real Leung Jan wing chun is still missing, some forty years ago, I was only fifteen years old boy, I had an exprience to see a style of wing chun was very effective system went against the pa-kua fighters. Matter of fact, my uncle was almost got killed by this chanlleger (Leung Jan wing chun fighter). All I knew this style once was called Leung Jan wing chun in Fatshan. My uncle had spent over twenty-some years to find this style all over the southern China, but somehow this style was gone. Six years ago I had travel to Hong Kong, met with Yip Chun, he mentioned that there might be still some unknown lineage of Leung Jan wing chun members somewhere in China, but he didn't know anything about it. So where did the real Leung Jan wing chun go?
Tam B.
Subject: Re: Where did the real Leung Jan wing chun go? Author: James Roselando Date: 6/18/2002 1:37:19 PM IP: 64.156.135.139
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Your thoughts on Leung Jan's WC have been running thru my mind for a long time now. I believe that his Futshan lineages do not have the flavor/representation or stylistic traits of his teaching. I am a practitioner of Leung Jan WC from his time spent in Koo Lo village. During his time spent there he developed a simple art called Pin Sun Wing Chun. To the best of my knowledge we are the only WC clan preserving Leung sifu's boxing that has not gone thru Chan Wah Shun! You must be careful with what you read now a days claiming to be Koo Lo village WC but indeed our clan has been preserving his art privately for many years now and regard it as a treasure.
From what I have researched, and experienced, Leung Jan sifu's teaching is most "similar" to that of the Yuen Kay San clan headed by Sum Nung sifu. Although, YKS incorporated the Kum Na Sao of Fung Siu Ching's Weng Chun, and Sum Nung incorporated the San Sik of Cheung Bo, the root proper boxing of their art is quite similar to ours. Other than that I have not found much that I consider a close relative!
Although Chan Wah Shun was a top fighter under Leung sifu, his teaching seems to have a bit of a different structure and I sometimes believe it was do to his size compared to the size of Leung sifu. Wong Sam, Leung Jan's top pupil from Koo Lo, was more similar in size to Leung sifu so perhaps this is why his boxing may represent the older WC methods. Oh well, lots to think about!
Leung Jan--Wong Sam--Fung Chun--Fung Chiu--Mui Wai Hun--Me
These are the names of Leung Jan sifu's pupils from Futshan
Chan Wah Shun
Lo Kam
Lau Man Kay
Fung Wah
Leung Kai
Ho Han Loi
Tse Biu
Leung Bik
"Ju Yuk" Kwai
"Muk Yan" Wah
"Dai Shun" Shu
These are the names of Leung Jan sifu's pupils from Koo Lo
Wong Sam
Yik Ying
Leung Bak Chung
Regards,
Jim
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Originally Posted by Jim Roselando
It would be very valuable to see some "pure" Ng Chung So lineage Wing Chun.
Also you will note that if you watch some of the old Bruce Lee movies you will see that he wasn't really a very good actor, looking at the Hong Kong standard of the day. He will always be a great actor to lots of people, though.
