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    northern gong fu striking resembles sanda striking . Tell me more ?

    I would like to know more about this northern gong fu striking resembles sanda striking ?

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    Is what this guy doing Northern Kung Fu Sanda


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    Not quite true.

    Sanda striking can look like whatever you want it to, as it's a format. It really depends on what the coach's background is. I've trained under coaches who've had western boxing, xingyi, or cailifo in their background, but when the sparring starts, you only notice small differences or occasional tricks that each style brings. Whatever northern gongfu I've learned typically has more dramatic defense/counterattack rhythms than western boxing, and attacks are either linear or moving in a forward zig-zag.

    Anyone who says that their shaolin gongfu evaporates into mist as soon they put on boxing gloves is just being silly.
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    Sanda training in south Taiwan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    Sanda training in south Taiwan.

    Haha. The guy at 2:52.

    Is he the teacher?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firehawk4 View Post
    I would like to know more about this northern gong fu striking resembles sanda striking ?
    Both like to utilize long range striking.
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    This is 100% TCMA principle. It may be used in non-TCMA also. Since I did learn it from TCMA, I have to say it's TCMA principle.
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    We should not use "TCMA is more than combat" as excuse for not "evolving".

    You can have Kung Fu in cooking, it really has nothing to do with fighting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by -N- View Post
    Haha. The guy at 2:52.

    Is he the teacher?
    I'm pretty sure he's the villain.
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    This is 100% TCMA principle. It may be used in non-TCMA also. Since I did learn it from TCMA, I have to say it's TCMA principle.
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    We should not use "TCMA is more than combat" as excuse for not "evolving".

    You can have Kung Fu in cooking, it really has nothing to do with fighting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by -N- View Post
    Haha. The guy at 2:52.

    Is he the teacher?
    He is Roger Su who had defeated Robert Smith, a 3rd degree black belt in Judo when Roger was only 17 years old with only 1 and 1/2 year of SC training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    He is Roger Su who had defeated Robert Smith, a 3rd degree black belt in Judo when Roger was only 17 years old with only 1 and 1/2 year of SC training.
    He looked like he had ability.

    Any clips of him in action?

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    Quote Originally Posted by -N- View Post
    He looked like he had ability.

    Any clips of him in action?
    Here is a demo clip.

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    I have trained a lot of traditional northern Kung fu in China, i find it in no way similar to sanda striking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RenDaHai View Post
    I have trained a lot of traditional northern Kung fu in China, i find it in no way similar to sanda striking.
    I'm sure there are lots of differences in stance, close range short power, footwork and follow up attacks but what do you think is the difference between them in just jab, cross, uppercut and hook?

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    Greetings,

    If all you get is four hand strikes out of your style, you would be better off with boxing. Save on your money.

    mickey

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    Quote Originally Posted by xinyidizi View Post
    I'm sure there are lots of differences in stance, close range short power, footwork and follow up attacks but what do you think is the difference between them in just jab, cross, uppercut and hook?
    IMO, the TCMA use low stance such as the bow-arrow stance that may be good for training but may not be suitable for the striking art (the throwing art does need low stance). Also the way that TCMA may use jab, cross, uppercut and hook are usually used when arm bridge or grip is established (clinch) which may be different from the boxing which is a "pure" striking art.

    A TCMA guy may use his left palm to

    - press down his opponent's leading arm and then use his uppercut to at his chin.
    - grab on his opponent's leading left arm and then use his hook to aim at his head.
    - grab on his opponent's leading left arm and then use his cross to aim at his chest/head.

    A boxer will never use his left hand this way. As far as the jab, a TCMA guy and a boxer may apply the same way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mickey View Post
    Greetings,

    If all you get is four hand strikes out of your style, you would be better off with boxing. Save on your money.

    mickey
    The problem is if you are a boxer and you also cross train the throwing art, you may have difficulty for your integration. A boxer will not have the "bridge (clinch)" concept which is a must for the striking art and grappling art integration. If your goal is to have a good striking art, the boxing may be better than the TCMA. If your goal is striking and grappling integration, the TCMA is definitely better than the boxing.
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