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    Anti-striking

    Here is the "big fist" strategy:

    - Hold both of your hands into a big fist.
    - Hide your head behind it.
    - Extend your arms toward at your opponent's face.
    - Move in toward your opponent and try to use your big fist to hit on his face.
    - When your opponent tries to hit your head, you use your big fist along with wedged arms to deflect your opponent's head shots.
    - When your hands are close to your opponent's head, use head lock, and take him down ASAP.

    Just made some video in my today's class. All comments are welcome.

    1. Use "big fist" to hit on your opponent's head. The training is done for chest punch instead.

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    2. Use "big fist" to deflect incoming punches.

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    3. Use "big fist" to create a "clinch".

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    4. Use "big fist" to create a "clinch", use "clinch" to create "throw".

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    Is kicking or leg takedown allowed?
    If his hands are higher than you what if you stick your forearm under his and push, at the same time use the other hand to strike the body or maybe uppercut? If his hands are lower then what if you break his guard from above and create a space to attack?

    Also if grappling is also allowed don't you think extending the arms like that can easily be used against him?


    If you are making other videos can you ask them to focus on breaking the guard before going for the head to see what happens?
    Last edited by xinyidizi; 04-13-2014 at 07:37 PM.

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    Head shot is the main concern here. Both body shot and kicks are less threaten to a grapplier than a full powerful head shot. A grapplier should not care about his opponent to play the grappling game with him. If you consider yourself as an octopus, you will love to play the clinching game with any fish.

    The main purpose of this strategy is to change a striking game into a grappling game ASAP.
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    if you kept your hands open but in the same relative position, it might be better for self defense because it'd look less aggressive to any witnesses. Might help in a legal situation if the other person tried to sue you.

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    The main strategy is the "stiff arms". Whether you use big fist or 2 separate stiff arms, the strategy is the same. here is the original SC stiff arms without the big fist.

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    What if you have multiple people attacking you ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firehawk4 View Post
    What if you have multiple people attacking you ?
    I assume in group fight, you still concern whether your head will be hit or not. This is the best way to protect your head from full power head shot. In any fight, if you can protect your head better, you will have much more courage.

    By using this simple strategy, you head will not be hit easily.
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    If I was dealing with someone using that method, I would:

    1) work on being evasive (assuming that I was trying to take advantage of striking range while the other person was not putting out strikes, but trying to avoid clinch in order to keep striking)

    2) target the body and legs, watching for the guard to drop

    3) Hit the head whenever the guard drops

    4) Feint a lot in order to draw the guard, then try to strike where an opening is made

    I think eventually, the person might very well get in close enough for throwing, but I would seek to make sure he wasn't fresh anymore when it happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    Here is the "big fist" strategy:

    - Hold both of your hands into a big fist.
    - Hide your head behind it.
    - Extend your arms toward at your opponent's face.
    - Move in toward your opponent and try to use your big fist to hit on his face.
    - When your opponent tries to hit your head, you use your big fist along with wedged arms to deflect your opponent's head shots.
    - When your hands are close to your opponent's head, use head lock, and take him down ASAP.

    Just made some video in my today's class. All comments are welcome.

    1. Use "big fist" to hit on your opponent's head. The training is done for chest punch instead.

    Reminding me of what to do when your hands are tied up together or handcuffed together.


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    Thanks for you guy's valuable opinions.

    Next week I am going to record some "double spears" strategy. The

    - "big fist" strategy is to protect your center from inside out. You don't let your opponent to come into your center. You try to wrap his arm when his arm is outside of your center.
    - "double spears" strategy is to protect your center from outside in. You invite your opponent to come into your center. You try to wrap his arm when his arm is in your center.

    With both strategies, I think the anti-striking theory can be more convincing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPJ View Post
    Reminding me of what to do when your hands are tied up together or handcuffed together.

    I find this one - 武松脱铐拳. The "big fist" idea was used in some system already in case you have to fight with handcuffs on.

    Last edited by YouKnowWho; 04-16-2014 at 04:20 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    Thanks for you guy's valuable opinions.
    It's definitely interesting to consider different approaches and what to do if faced with them, it's a very fun puzzle!

    Next week I am going to record some "double spears" strategy. The

    - "big fist" strategy is to protect your center from inside out. You don't let your opponent to come into your center. You try to wrap his arm when his arm is outside of your center.
    - "double spears" strategy is to protect your center from outside in. You invite your opponent to come into your center. You try to wrap his arm when his arm is in your center.

    With both strategies, I think the anti-striking theory can be more convincing.
    Interesting. I was wondering if there were other aspects you were planning on working. I'm looking forward to getting a more complete picture. Even aside from the anti-striking angle, this almost seems like an interesting format for working entry for throws against a striker, so that, even if someone was opting to use strikes, they could switch modes to big fist and the double spears in order to take the offensive into throwing range.

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