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Thread: A Data point From emei 12 zhuang the mother art of yik kam SLT 1848

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    A Data point From emei 12 zhuang the mother art of yik kam SLT 1848

    I was told, Some one has make the following " his - story" in this forum.



    1.

    There are not any other Wing Chun lineages professing Qigong connections to Omei except Yik Kam.

    The thing is, Omei Qigong is not designed for combat.

    Combat Qigong is very different than Health Qigong. Omei Qigong is purposed for health.


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    This would make sense though that if Leung Yi Tai also learned Omei Qigong it would have been to enhance his health and ability to sing the female role in the Opera Troupe.





    The story above is made up with a clearly no understanding on the subject .



    1. As one can see from the attached photo on the emei 12 zhuang kuit.

    Sticky as chi in chi sau , using force to break force, pressure points strike ,and many Wck technics of 1848 such as Pak sau are described in detail.

    These type of technology document within the emei 12 zhuang kuit clearly shown where these elements of YKSLT is from, it is clearly different from Fujian White crane.


    One needs to know what emei 12 zhuang is before jump gun into Omei Qigong is not designed for combat.


    2. Yik kam is a real person who is verify able to link with lee man mau red boat uprising and Choy lee fut anti Qing triad in 1848.

    Yik kam has six point half pole which link direct to Taiping Heavenly Kingdom uprising .

    Got nothing to do with Leung Yi Tai.



    3. To those His-story maker who love to make story, please keep your story making for your own lineage only.
    I am perfectly ok with whatever you like to make for your own lineage.
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    Last edited by Hendrik; 04-19-2014 at 11:55 AM.

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    For wcners who is interested on the above Emei 12 zhuang kuit.

    The following is my translation . I am encouraging anyone to translate if you can do better then me.


    粑粘尋掌腕
    Stick to search for Palm and wrist

    揉套沈彼力
    Rub loop to sink his force flow.



    Note :

    yes, the term 尋 or search, 沈 or sink as in CK set is used here . These above two kuits are about listern to force flow.





    勿當冲馬勁
    Avoid to block the thrusting horse power direct into you.

    橫鎖刁牛蹩
    Horizontally lock up the wild bull leg (to let it trip itself)







    封閉借來法
    Seal off or close up borrowing the incoming momentum

    点穴最上智
    Pressure point finger strike is the most wise












    we do have lots of data points to track and compare where the technology of wing chun 1848 is very likely come from . As the above kuit which is clearly in black and white, we know, these are not Fujian white crane technology but Emei 12 zhuang technology .


    We have lots of facts today to trace and verify what wing chun 1848 consist of, in DNA or history . I am ok with anyone who love to made up their own lineage history , however, what is facts? That is no longer an unknown.


    The above emei 12 zhuang kuit With the long fist art and short strike art information of 1848,
    many things in 1848 Wck are defined itself clearly and accurately.

    There always has a trace if it really exist .
    Last edited by Hendrik; 04-19-2014 at 01:00 PM.

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    Isn't this emei 12 zhuang technics look like the so called Bagua lung na some wcners called?

    Yik kam slt 1848 called this as tearing hands or see sau, as in the YKSLT part 3 kuit says:

    Yb5撕手能破長橋法。
    Tearing hands is for breaking the long bridge.
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    Last edited by Hendrik; 04-19-2014 at 01:01 PM.

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    Naming of SNT and CK

    A,

    粑粘尋掌腕
    Stick to search for Palm and wrist

    揉套沈彼力
    Rub loop to sink his force flow.




    Note :

    yes, the term 尋 or search, 沈 or sink as in CK set is used here .




    B,

    Another kuit from emei 12 zhuang

    細味小字妙絕方
    Taste the small details is the ultimate formulae



    Do you think the naming of siu or small as in SNT
    or CK are by accident ?
    Last edited by Hendrik; 04-19-2014 at 01:01 PM.

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