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  1. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by lkfmdc View Post
    Not that this really needs to be said, but I have a master's degree in Chinese history from one of the top schools in the country, NEVER heard that the long march was contested... but this IS the internet LOL
    That's the thing. Google doesn't even yield a conspiracy theory saying so. That is almost historic. I fully expected to find a furry subculture devoted to raccoon based porn fan fiction on the falsity of the Long March. Nothing.

  2. #47
    lies, lies, lies, full of North Korean style revisionism, holocaust denial, communist propaganda from an obvious Chinese sinophile, with a clear bias towards living juvenile 'communist' fantasies. Why don't you pack up your foul little life 'comrade' and head for the former 'confucian' north korea where your double think, group think, manipulative historical logic, which is similar to North Korean state claims of democracy, workers councils and elections will be welcome. Better still, spend the rest of your like in a chinese labor camp.


    the only person engaging in deliberate lies, deception, chicanery and manipulation comrade is your self! I'm not going to get into internet hyperbole, you bluntly denied any Tibetan conquest of China,to which I provided the historical evidence, and now you once again trying to engage in political spin doctoring, to save your embarrassed little face by stating, 'but oh it was only for 16 days'. Your like a disreputable little creep that has been caught stealing, that turns around and says 'but I never stole anything, you stole that item, it was never in my pocket!' when the action was in fact caught camera. I'm not interested in Chinese finicky creeps that are engaging in unnecessary nit-picking.


    No, more Lies, The Roman empire was ruined by internal civil war, but was later revived as the holy roman empire.

    They were a significant threat to the Roman empire.. so much so that they become part of the alliance of the holy roman empire.


    Actually there is plenty of documented evidence that the Japanese had a clear xenophobic policy towards china. 20 million people is astonishingly high number of deaths, which is in fact an industrial death camp. Genocide! Your like a Jewish 'nazi' that denies any anti-semitic policy towards the Jew's, despite the voluminous documented evidence, stories and accounts that exist. Why don't you read about the Japanese biological experiments that were performed on Chinese civilians.


    What are you trying to say now comrade, the Xia was a republic with constitutional monarchy? Europe did (at a very early period) in fact have elected kings (for a short period), rights as free men, which by comparison in China did not exist. The Xia was the first Chinese dynasty, but there has been a continuous culture of absolutist rulers in China throughout it's entire history, including to the present.


    I'm not interested in Fukuyama too much (he is Japanese and naturally doesn't know what it means to be a liberal), but I quote him because he is popular amongst 'political scientists' and his ideas have proven to be out right treacherous, unfounded and ultimately disastrous for the US. THe US should be focusing its security concerns on China, Russia and Japan, and the insidious sinophiles that are secretly trying to pull down the West.


    Well comrade, name another group beyond Falun Gong. Try typing Chinese 'pro democracy' movement's on the web, and see how many organisations you can trawl through. They are virtually non-existent. There is in fact, a large pro-democracy movement in Hong Kong, but asides from that, I haven't heard of anything.


    Well that (your claims on Benjamin Franklin) is the biggest load historical whitewashing I have ever encountered. Comparable to Nazi German claims that Blond Europeans built Asian civilisation. They (the American founding fathers) were influenced by the Magna Carta, Greco roman politics/ethics (aristotle), the english classical liberal tradition (Hobbes, Burke, MIll, Locke), etc, English/French constitution governments. Legalism was actually known for its arbitrary use of power and punishment, which allowed Chinese rulers to supersede any kind of balance to power. THe sons of Liberty used the Magna Carta has their foundation for any kind of democratic precedent.

    Did you know comrade that ancient China did in fact engage in more murder, rapine, democide than any of their counter parts such as Rome, Greece, MIddle East India, etc? No you didn't because you have learnt your history from a North Korean communist hand book, that denies any form of state censorship, suppression of truth in its history to this very day.

    The Long March is being disputed by any free thinking individual, and there has been an interesting reports on it on the BBC recently. Don't make me pull out the list of achievements of Britain such as the Orwell who warned of Chinese Democracy, with its thought police, double think, oppression and prisons. We (the West) are free thinking individuals, who reject any slavish 'eastern' values of subservience to authority, family, culture and leaders with a violent fist..

  3. #48
    Excellent troll post, but perhaps overplayed. Now, what sources specifically are questioning whether the long march occurred? I'm actually interested, I find crazy people FASCINATING.

  4. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoking Gun View Post
    I'm not going to get into internet hyperbole
    That is really the satirical heart of your post.

  5. #50
    Look, I''ll continue to pretend to buy into your troll if you can just provide these sources, I want to find the group too crazy for a google search to turn up. We'll do this quid pro quo, I give you something, then you provide the source.

    You know, you're absolutely right, if a real Kenpo stylist had shown up to the first UFC, there wouldn't even be MMA, we'd all learn effective 14 move combos that can stop ANYONE!

    Your turn.

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    Moutboxers suck.

    Who gives one toss about all the verbal drek he is spewing?

    Means nothing about martial arts, or learning to be effective with what you are learning.

    Fly fly little net ghost, fly fly.
    Mouth Boxers have not the testicular nor the spinal fortitude to be known.
    Hence they hide rather than be known as adults.

  7. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoking Gun View Post
    THe US should be focusing its security concerns on China, Russia and Japan, and the insidious sinophiles that are secretly trying to pull down the West.
    You think Japan should be one of the U.S.'s top security concerns?????

    As amusing as it is, I'm not really following your logic with the whole "Chinese are weak, pathetic sick men of Asia," and also "Evil Sith overlord tyrant dictators."

    You must be aware that currently, China occupies Tibet and Manchuria, not the other way around?

    You seem to give a lot of weight to the Mongolian conquest of China. It was certainly impressive, but are we to forget that they spread their empire as far as Europe? A whole lot of people fell to them, but in the end it was a bit of anomaly. We haven't seen a whole lot from the Mongols since the Empire collapsed.

    Alright I'll let you get back to explaining how this relates to your obviously true and logical opinions of MMA being a talentless bastion of unathletic slobs who can't fight for crap.
    Last edited by Kellen Bassette; 06-11-2014 at 06:54 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    This is 100% TCMA principle. It may be used in non-TCMA also. Since I did learn it from TCMA, I have to say it's TCMA principle.
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    We should not use "TCMA is more than combat" as excuse for not "evolving".

    You can have Kung Fu in cooking, it really has nothing to do with fighting!

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    The Holy Roman Empire was nieher HOly, nor Roman, nor an empire
    Chan Tai San Book at https://www.createspace.com/4891253

    Quote Originally Posted by taai gihk yahn View Post
    well, like LKFMDC - he's a genuine Kung Fu Hero™
    Quote Originally Posted by Taixuquan99 View Post
    As much as I get annoyed when it gets derailed by the array of strange angry people that hover around him like moths, his good posts are some of my favorites.
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    I think he goes into a cave to meditate and recharge his chi...and bite the heads off of bats, of course....

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    Quote Originally Posted by lkfmdc View Post
    The Holy Roman Empire was nieher HOly, nor Roman, nor an empire
    you left out "Discuss"...
    Kung Fu is good for you.

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    The Holy Roman Empire was nieher HOly, nor Roman, nor an empire
    touché...good sir touché...
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    i had an old taichi lady talk smack behind my back. i mean comon man, come on. if it was 200 years ago,, mebbe i wouldve smacked her and took all her monehs.
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    i am manly and strong. do not insult me cracker.

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    Smoking gun,

    I would love to spar with you. Where are you at?
    Last edited by Dale Dugas; 06-12-2014 at 06:40 AM.
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    Hence they hide rather than be known as adults.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellen Bassette View Post
    You think Japan should be one of the U.S.'s top security concerns?????

    As amusing as it is, I'm not really following your logic with the whole "Chinese are weak, pathetic sick men of Asia," and also "Evil Sith overlord tyrant dictators."

    You must be aware that currently, China occupies Tibet and Manchuria, not the other way around?

    You seem to give a lot of weight to the Mongolian conquest of China. It was certainly impressive, but are we to forget that they spread their empire as far as Europe? A whole lot of people fell to them, but in the end it was a bit of anomaly. We haven't seen a whole lot from the Mongols since the Empire collapsed.

    Alright I'll let you get back to explaining how this relates to your obviously true and logical opinions of MMA being a talentless bastion of unathletic slobs who can't fight for crap.
    This is why I at least leave my ranting to the Off-Topic threads on those lonely nights...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faux Newbie View Post
    Care to cite a source on that?
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoking Gun View Post
    Yeah I've got a whole library on Chinese civilisation/culture. I buy books from "china books' all the time. I've attended different lectures, listened to many experts.. there was a recent documentary on the historical veracity of the long march. A lot of Western academics are sceptical of the exaggerated claims of the chinese communists, with their filtered, censored, revisionist history of this and other histories.
    Asked for source,

    "I watched a documentary."

    I like this guy.

  14. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by wenshu View Post
    Asked for source,

    "I watched a documentary."

    I like this guy.
    I am still reeling at the fact that the Chinese propaganda that I have been brainwashed in is apparently too soft on the Japanese.

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    A good topic being unfortunately trashed. No thanks to those who did so.

    Do "Grandmasters" help or hurt the progress of kung fu? Well, the answer is in the way that the title being used.




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    KC
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