Emei & Wing Chun Research "Boston USA 2014"

[Jim Roselando]

Emei Research w/Grandmaster Fu

Boston, USA 2104


On May 10th & 11th, 2014, I hosted a seminar with the Grandmaster of the Emei 12 Zhuang family. Wing Chun practitioners and holistic health cultivators flew in from around the country to train with Grandmaster Fu.

In this clip Grandmaster Fu is reviewing the ancient Siu Lin Tao poetry that was passed down by Red Boat actor Yik Kam and the Cho family. The results are listed below;

Part One: 10
Part Two: 2
Part Three: 0
Part Four: 2

10 out of the 22 lines of poetry from the foundation of the set are related. This means 45% of the Yik Kam Siu Lin Tao (part one) is from Emei!

PLEASE NOTE: I purposely didn't edit the video even tho the middle section was sideways. I did not want to cut/flip the footage so that all could see the full clip without any thoughts of it being editing...


Respect to Grandmaster Fu Wei Zhong and the Emei tradition!

Respect to Miao Shun, the Yim family and our Wing Chun ancestors!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W2087pVT7s

[KPM]

Thanks Jim! Any footage of some of the Emei GM Fu taught so we can all see how much it resembles Wing Chun?

[GlennR]

Emei Research w/Grandmaster Fu

Boston, USA 2104


On May 10th & 11th, 2014, I hosted a seminar with the Grandmaster of the Emei 12 Zhuang family. Wing Chun practitioners and holistic health cultivators flew in from around the country to train with Grandmaster Fu.

In this clip Grandmaster Fu is reviewing the ancient Siu Lin Tao poetry that was passed down by Red Boat actor Yik Kam and the Cho family. The results are listed below;

Part One: 10
Part Two: 2
Part Three: 0
Part Four: 2

10 out of the 22 lines of poetry from the foundation of the set are related. This means 45% of the Yik Kam Siu Lin Tao (part one) is from Emei!

PLEASE NOTE: I purposely didn't edit the video even tho the middle section was sideways. I did not want to cut/flip the footage so that all could see the full clip without any thoughts of it being editing...


Respect to Grandmaster Fu Wei Zhong and the Emei tradition!

Respect to Miao Shun, the Yim family and our Wing Chun ancestors!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W2087pVT7s

Couldnt you afford a table and chairs???

[LFJ]

10 out of the 22 lines of poetry from the foundation of the set are related. This means 45% of the Yik Kam Siu Lin Tao (part one) is from Emei!

You boys are really something. The beginning of the clip calls it "Historical Research". This is only technical analysis and comparison. It is not looking into historical questions, and it is jumping to conclusions without sufficient evidence.

To make a historical claim of a mother art, you have to answer the essential historical questions of who taught what to whom, when and where. Technical analysis and comparison only tells you what is similar. It doesn't tell you why it is similar.

Since you have no answers for the historical questions, you don't know if the YKSLT is from Emei, vice versa, or if they both drew from a common source elsewhere. You have no answers to these questions whatsoever.

Who taught what to whom, when and where. Those are the historical questions you need to answer to have sufficient information to make a historical claim regarding the origin of an art. Until then, you can only talk about technical similarities without declaring anything historical.

I don't believe you boys realize how large a gap it is you are trying to jump here. But this is not "Historical Research".

[zuti car]

You boys are really something. The beginning of the clip calls it "Historical Research". This is only technical analysis and comparison. It is not looking into historical questions, and it is jumping to conclusions without sufficient evidence.

To make a historical claim of a mother art, you have to answer the essential historical questions of who taught what to whom, when and where. Technical analysis and comparison only tells you what is similar. It doesn't tell you why it is similar.

Since you have no answers for the historical questions, you don't know if the YKSLT is from Emei, vice versa, or if they both drew from a common source elsewhere. You have no answers to these questions whatsoever.

Who taught what to whom, when and where. Those are the historical questions you need to answer to have sufficient information to make a historical claim regarding the origin of an art. Until then, you can only talk about technical similarities without declaring anything historical.

I don't believe you boys realize how large a gap it is you are trying to jump here. But this is not "Historical Research".

This is not research at all . The method is wrong , this is THE opposite of scientific approach in research .

[kentchang]

You boys are really something. The beginning of the clip calls it "Historical Research". This is only technical analysis and comparison. It is not looking into historical questions, and it is jumping to conclusions without sufficient evidence.

To make a historical claim of a mother art, you have to answer the essential historical questions of who taught what to whom, when and where. Technical analysis and comparison only tells you what is similar. It doesn't tell you why it is similar.

Since you have no answers for the historical questions, you don't know if the YKSLT is from Emei, vice versa, or if they both drew from a common source elsewhere. You have no answers to these questions whatsoever.

Who taught what to whom, when and where. Those are the historical questions you need to answer to have sufficient information to make a historical claim regarding the origin of an art. Until then, you can only talk about technical similarities without declaring anything historical.

I don't believe you boys realize how large a gap it is you are trying to jump here. But this is not "Historical Research".

LFJ, well said.

People may be happier believing what they want. It's not your job to convince them otherwise. J/K

[GlennR]

This is not research at all . The method is wrong , this is THE opposite of scientific approach in research .

Yep, basically start with a conclusion first and THEN cherry pick the evidence , if you can call it that, to justify the conclusion

[zuti car]

Yep, basically start with a conclusion first and THEN cherry pick the evidence , if you can call it that, to justify the conclusion

Classical religious approach , we have the answer , now we have to provide believable evidence

[tc101]

To make a historical claim of a mother art, you have to answer the essential historical questions of who taught what to whom, when and where. Technical analysis and comparison only tells you what is similar. It doesn't tell you why it is similar.

Yes yes yes this is the crux of it.