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    Why are butterfly knives so indimdating?

    I had an interesting experience yesterday evening. It involved 9 police officers armed with some MP5 sub-machine gun variant with laser sights, 2 dog units, 6 un-gunned officers (batons and CS are still arms) and a helicopter.

    I had spent all day at a local sports centre attending the official count for a local election I stood in. Once I got home I thought I would relax by practicing in my secluded driveway with my butterfly knives. I go inside and a bit later I hear a helicopter overhead and lots of shouting. Thinking that it was the supporters of the person that won whom were celebrating, I go look out of my back window and see three armed police officers in my back garden.

    They see me, point their weapons and order me to the front door. There I am presented with another three armed officers at the entrance to my driveway, two to my left at the side of my house and one crouched behind a small wall and many other officers in addition to two dog units.

    I look down at my chest and see many little red dots fluttering to and throw on it.

    I keep my cool, follow their instructions and let them cuff me with a very heavy duty plastic tie that seems to give chemical burns. They told me they had a report of a 'crazy'' roaming the public streets with two big machetes or samurai swords. After I explained who I am, the fact I've worked with the police, we return to my property and a police officer attempts to cut off the ties but breaks my scissors.

    Not despairing at the loss of my only pair of scissors I slip the cuffs; section 2 SLT and a particular variant on the hand position to the rear gave me enough space to slip them. Police officer told me he would have to report that to the firearm team for training purposes so I plugged my services, why not hey?

    I won't go into details as to what I said to them but they seemed sympathetic to my political cause in my area and were a little embarrassed. They left shaking hands and telling me that I could still apply to be a 'special' or a police officer more fully should I want to. No charge, no warning, no caution despite something else that I won't disclose here.

    A very, very surreal experience given the day I had and I'll try to upload a picture of the plastic tie so you can see what I am taking about. On a final note abdominal breathing really helps to control the adrenaline dump.

    p.s.

    It cost them over £10k for that operation. Pretty sure they broke the law but I am not going to push it with them.
    Last edited by Paddington; 05-24-2014 at 03:40 PM.

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    Now that is an awesome story dude! Two huge machetes! Bwahahaha! !!!!! Thx for sharing!

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    (please excuse my dirty finger tip guitar fretting hand)

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    Police officer told me he would have to report that to the firearm team for training purposes so I plugged my services, why not hey
    Ha! Love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HybridWarrior View Post
    Now that is an awesome story dude! Two huge machetes! Bwahahaha! !!!!! Thx for sharing!
    No problem, something more 'light' than the constant bickering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddington View Post
    I had an interesting experience yesterday evening. It involved 9 police officers armed with some MP5 sub-machine gun variant with laser sights, 2 dog units, 6 un-gunned officers (batons and CS are still arms) and a helicopter.

    I had spent all day at a local sports centre attending the official count for a local election I stood in. Once I got home I thought I would relax by practicing in my secluded driveway with my butterfly knives. I go inside and a bit later I hear a helicopter overhead and lots of shouting. Thinking that it was the supporters of the person that won whom were celebrating, I go look out of my back window and see three armed police officers in my back garden.

    They see me, point their weapons and order me to the front door. There I am presented with another three armed officers at the entrance to my driveway, two to my left at the side of my house and one crouched behind a small wall and many other officers in addition to two dog units.

    I look down at my chest and see many little red dots fluttering to and throw on it.

    I keep my cool, follow their instructions and let them cuff me with a very heavy duty plastic tie that seems to give chemical burns. They told me they had a report of a 'crazy'' roaming the public streets with two big machetes or samurai swords. After I explained who I am, the fact I've worked with the police, we return to my property and a police officer attempts to cut off the ties but breaks my scissors.

    Not despairing at the loss of my only pair of scissors I slip the cuffs; section 2 SLT and a particular variant on the hand position to the rear gave me enough space to slip them. Police officer told me he would have to report that to the firearm team for training purposes so I plugged my services, why not hey?

    I won't go into details as to what I said to them but they seemed sympathetic to my political cause in my area and were a little embarrassed. They left shaking hands and telling me that I could still apply to be a 'special' or a police officer more fully should I want to. No charge, no warning, no caution despite something else that I won't disclose here.

    A very, very surreal experience given the day I had and I'll try to upload a picture of the plastic tie so you can see what I am taking about. On a final note abdominal breathing really helps to control the adrenaline dump.

    p.s.

    It cost them over £10k for that operation. Pretty sure they broke the law but I am not going to push it with them.

    wow thats a heck of a day!
    sincerly, eddie

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    Did you break the cuffs or slip them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HybridWarrior View Post
    Did you break the cuffs or slip them?
    I slipped them. The position of the hands when they were placed on me was key. I doubt very much that I could break them and they are very difficult to cut. I am not sure of the exact load that they can tolerate but I imagine it is more than most humans could produce. I imagine you could tow a car with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddington View Post
    I slipped them. The position of the hands when they were placed on me was key. I doubt very much that I could break them and they are very difficult to cut. I am not sure of the exact load that they can tolerate but I imagine it is more than most humans could produce. I imagine you could tow a car with them.
    Were your hands in front or behind you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HybridWarrior View Post
    Were your hands in front or behind you?
    Behind, like in SLT second section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddington View Post
    Behind, like in SLT second section.
    Thanks!


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    All that over practicing with some knives??? Guess the police state hear isn't so bad as yours, yet.
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    This is 100% TCMA principle. It may be used in non-TCMA also. Since I did learn it from TCMA, I have to say it's TCMA principle.
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    We should not use "TCMA is more than combat" as excuse for not "evolving".

    You can have Kung Fu in cooking, it really has nothing to do with fighting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HybridWarrior View Post
    Thanks!

    Note the thumb position in the picture, that also helps create space. It looks swollen because it is not fully healed from my breaking it last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellen Bassette View Post
    All that over practicing with some knives??? Guess the police state hear isn't so bad as yours, yet.
    That is what I thought. (removed by me)
    Last edited by Paddington; 05-25-2014 at 02:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paddington View Post
    I had an interesting experience yesterday evening. It involved 9 police officers armed with some MP5 sub-machine gun variant with laser sights, 2 dog units, 6 un-gunned officers (batons and CS are still arms) and a helicopter.

    I had spent all day at a local sports centre attending the official count for a local election I stood in. Once I got home I thought I would relax by practicing in my secluded driveway with my butterfly knives. I go inside and a bit later I hear a helicopter overhead and lots of shouting. Thinking that it was the supporters of the person that won whom were celebrating, I go look out of my back window and see three armed police officers in my back garden.

    They see me, point their weapons and order me to the front door. There I am presented with another three armed officers at the entrance to my driveway, two to my left at the side of my house and one crouched behind a small wall and many other officers in addition to two dog units.

    I look down at my chest and see many little red dots fluttering to and throw on it.

    I keep my cool, follow their instructions and let them cuff me with a very heavy duty plastic tie that seems to give chemical burns. They told me they had a report of a 'crazy'' roaming the public streets with two big machetes or samurai swords. After I explained who I am, the fact I've worked with the police, we return to my property and a police officer attempts to cut off the ties but breaks my scissors.

    Not despairing at the loss of my only pair of scissors I slip the cuffs; section 2 SLT and a particular variant on the hand position to the rear gave me enough space to slip them. Police officer told me he would have to report that to the firearm team for training purposes so I plugged my services, why not hey?

    I won't go into details as to what I said to them but they seemed sympathetic to my political cause in my area and were a little embarrassed. They left shaking hands and telling me that I could still apply to be a 'special' or a police officer more fully should I want to. No charge, no warning, no caution despite something else that I won't disclose here.

    A very, very surreal experience given the day I had and I'll try to upload a picture of the plastic tie so you can see what I am taking about. On a final note abdominal breathing really helps to control the adrenaline dump.

    p.s.

    It cost them over £10k for that operation. Pretty sure they broke the law but I am not going to push it with them.
    Ha very nice You were right to use your...wing chun.
    "Wing Chun is a bell that appears when rung.

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