Return to Emei

[kung fu fighter]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBmH...=youtube_gdata

[Paddington]

*dips is big toe into the thread*

Nope!

[KPM]

I enjoyed it. It is pretty well-made for an amateur video. I would have rather have seen more footage of the mountain and less of Sergio, but hey...you take what you get! :-)

[Minghequan]

More "tourist" stuff showed, less martial arts!

[Vajramusti]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBmH...=youtube_gdata

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Nice scenery.

[Wayfaring]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBmH...=youtube_gdata

Amazing. The dot in the "I" on Sergio's name is now copyrighted. It really doesn't require much imagination to see what that guy is trying to franchise.

[JPinAZ]

"A Trip to the birthplace of one of Wing Chun's parent arts", and it takes place on Emei mountain.. Good fiction film he's got there.
What's this, the third time he's discovered the 'roots' of wing chun? I'll pass and just wait for the fourth installment of his easily duped blundering saga: Return to Mars and the real roots of Red Planet Opera Wing Chun.

[zuti car]

I will reveal true origin of wing chun soon . It involves secret societies , anti Ching rebels ,love story , sex , betrayal, invincible fighters and some secret techniques .

[kentchang]

"A Trip to the birthplace of one of Wing Chun's parent arts", and it takes place on Emei mountain.. Good fiction film he's got there.

Without Sifu Yung and the Cho Gar members presenting their real story of Hendrik, the public would still be fooled by Hendrik's own fantasy -"Ermei 12 Zheung is the mother of all WCK". Sifu Yung's posts clearly stated that Robert Chu and Hendrik just wanted to use Sergio Iadarola for their own benefit. Any real researchers would not go to Sergio Iadarola, because Sergio has been known as a sellout, not a genuine researcher. In truth, they all used each other for their own benefit. It's not about any real WCK research, it's all about how they repackage bits and pieces of info from other people to make false claims that they found the real original WCK from Ermei. The truth is that all their evidence presented to the public are fabricated stories without any facts to supporting them.

Chun Ki's post below has offer a much clear picture to understand where is Hendrik coming from.

Originally posted by Chun Ki
Hendrik Santos similarities to Kenneth Lin

Hendrik Santos VS. Kenneth Xiang Fuk Lin

HS: Southeast Asia - Malyasia
KL: South east Asia - Indonesia

HS: associate with same unqualified researcher Sergio Iadarola
KL: associate with same unqualified researcher Sergio Iadarola

HS: Claims to be successor
KL: Claims to be successor

HS: says Emie is Wing Chun
KL: says HKB is Wing Chun

HS: Forgery of documentation (Zuti car’s document refrence, written by non-chinese person and not 19th century writing, written in 21st century modern simplified Chinese characters.) HS so called historical document does not match historical era.
KL: Forgery of Vikoga Wing Chun material, forgery of Hun Mun, forgery of 18 Lohan, 5 Ancestors, ect.

HS: says he has the true Wing Chun.
KL: says he has the true Wing Chun.

HS: Steals SCWC 1890 material then twists and changes it to 1894 kuit. More Forgery.
KL: Steal years of internet, books, video material to make many websites, names. Ongoing twisting, worming and stretching his HKB his-story.

HS: baise to Master Yung but Master Yung publicly denouncement HS. HS’s Cho family publicly denounce HS.
KL: KL’s previously claimed successor and inheritor of HKB, GM Tio makes a public denouncement of KL. KL’s Sihings publicly denounce KL.

HS: Claims baise to Yung then disrespects him later.
KL: Claims baise to Tio and 7 hole oath then disrespects him later.

HS: Wants to become a big part of Wing Chun history
KL: Wants to become a big part of Wing Chun history

HS: Uses non-Wing Chun people to endorse emie as Wing Chun orginal.
KL: Uses non-Wing Chun old HKB men to endorse HKB is orginal Wing Chun.

HS: Emie master saw HS paper and highlights a few words then jumps to conclusion that Emie is Wing Chun orgin but Emie master does not know Wing Chun. HS uses non-Wing Chun people to validate Wing Chun.
KL: VTM makes fake report to jump to conclusion that HKB is orginal Wing Chun. KL uses VTM’s material and resells it to VTM to get non-Wing Chun students to validate HKB is Wing Chun. Just see there huge youtube video testimony propaganda.

HS: uses Emie master to sign paper that Emie is Wing Chun orgin.
KL: uses Master Tio to sign that HKB is 5-flags Wing Chun and orginal Wing Chun.

HS: uses Cho family kuit and changes it to match Emie kuit.
KL: uses HKB, changes history and stories to make up 5-flags Wing Chun. HKB = 18 lohan, 5 ancetor, Vikoga Wing Chun, ect

HS: No Emie in Cho Gar Wing Chun or Cho Hung Choi Wing Chun or Yik Kam Wing Chun.
KL: No Wing Chun in HKB. Old men cant perform SLT, CK, BJ.

HS: Rename/re-branding things that already exist
KL: Rename/re-branding things that already exist

HS: word play
KL: word play

HS: Emie false stories
KL: 5 flags Wing Chun false stories

HS: Fake buddist
KL: Fake buddist

HS: Fraud, liar
KL: Fraud, liar

HS: Mouse
KL: Rat

[BPWT..]

It's funny (read: odd) that Sergio references YKS Wing Chun with regards to internal work (and also joint work - or 'bow' work to use his and Hendrik's terminology of choice - in relation to the snake hand work).

It's funny because in Sergio's two videos about WCK's basic stance he illustrated how the feet should not be turned in and the knees not clamped because in doing so (he said) you can't use the seven bows/joints properly... yet this 'wrong' method is exactly how the YKS lineage trains the stance - with quite extreme adduction of the knees.

I guess no one ever told YKS that the internal side of the art he trained didn't, umm, work.

[JPinAZ]

It's funny (read: odd) that Sergio references YKS Wing Chun with regards to internal work (and also joint work - or 'bow' work to use his and Hendrik's terminology of choice - in relation to the snake hand work).

It's funny because in Sergio's two videos about WCK's basic stance he illustrated how the feet should not be turned in and the knees not clamped because in doing so (he said) you can't use the seven bows/joints properly... yet this 'wrong' method is exactly how the YKS lineage trains the stance - with quite extreme adduction of the knees.

I guess no one ever told YKS that the internal side of the art he trained didn't, umm, work.

Haha, that's a really great point and one that I never would have made the connection!

[Daniel Fong]

V1 :
"A Trip to the birthplace of one of Wing Chun's parent arts"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBmHUucF12Q

V2 :
"Sifu Sergio presents Fujian White Crane by Sifu Lee Kong"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5BXG...Ln2o769H3mFfZg

At 6:55 V1, Sergio shows buddha hand and GM Lee Kong also shows something similar at 1:00 V2.

At 8:30 V1, Sergio mentions YKS Snake hand look similar to Emei. Is the move even similar to GM Lee Kong White Crane form at 0:30 in V2 ?

Questions :

White Crane from Emei or
White Crane from Wing Chun?

Wing Chun from Emei or
Wing Chun from White Crane ?

Emei from Wing Chun or
Emei from White Crane ?

[Firehawk4]

Does all this emei Zhuang white Crane original Yik Kam Wing Chun have to do with hindrik and Sergio , Robert Chu makeing alot of money for themselves and getting lots of students and fame being the top Wing Chun Man in the world today ?

[BPWT..]

Haha, that's a really great point and one that I never would have made the connection!

Sergio does seem to pick and choose - to cherry pick when it suits him.

He lists YKS WCK, on his website, as one of the "lineages responsible for the creation of the complete picture of the IWKA Wing Tjun system." He also lists Yip Man WCK and Lohan.

At the start of his first video on the basic stance, he says he is explaining how the stance "got misinterpreted through history by the low-educated farmers in Foshan," and how, being unable to read, the farmers misunderstood the meaning behind the words. Essentially, they misunderstood the pronunciation of WCK's terminology, he says.

Of course, both YKS and YM were from wealthy families (they weren't farmers) and both were educated men. It is hard to imagine that these educated people misunderstood the system they spent most of their lives training and developing.

Sergio adds: "Some lineages even go so far as to totally squeeze the legs like this [shows the stance much as it is used in YKS WCK], instead of performing the YJKYM as it should be done."

Somehow, despite YKS WCK using the basic training stance the wrong way (according to Sergio), YKS WCK is also validation of Emei Zhuang being a parent art of Wing Chun and the use of Hendrik's seven bows.

I know two people who have met Sifu Sergio and both say he is very skilled. He probably is. But his logic is all over the place, IMO, and he's picking bits and pieces from different systems (various WCK lineages, plus Weng Chun, Lohan, White Crane, Emei Zhuang) using what supports his ideas and conveniently ignoring parts of these systems (or dismissing them as being "uneducated misunderstandings") if that don't support his ideas.

Anyone can be wrong - there's no problem in saying you got something mixed up. But first Sergio talks about Chi Sim, then Black Flag, now Emei Zhuang. He still teaches components of these to this day. As you can see in his website's list:

http://www.wingtjun.com/iwka/sifu-se...g-tjun-system/

[tc101]

It's funny (read: odd) that Sergio references YKS Wing Chun with regards to internal work (and also joint work - or 'bow' work to use his and Hendrik's terminology of choice - in relation to the snake hand work).

It's funny because in Sergio's two videos about WCK's basic stance he illustrated how the feet should not be turned in and the knees not clamped because in doing so (he said) you can't use the seven bows/joints properly... yet this 'wrong' method is exactly how the YKS lineage trains the stance - with quite extreme adduction of the knees.

I guess no one ever told YKS that the internal side of the art he trained didn't, umm, work.

Yes I pointed this out to Hendrik early on. Much of Hendrik's stuff is very very different that YKS wing chun which is my lineage. Sum Nung who was one of the all time great wing chun fighters did things very very very differently than Hendrik's ermei inspired way and was very successful. I even asked Hendrik if he thought he knew wing chun better than YKS and Sum Nung but he avoided the question like he does anything that contradicts his world view.