Originally Posted by
Paddington
Well, many are able to distinguish between the merits of the form taught and the relative skill of the person performing it. Ip Chun is a very good teacher and very good at chi sau and the many great boxing coaches are testament to the fact that you don't have to be the best 'in performance', to be a great coach and to train champions.
I am not overly concerned about debates regarding providence as my concerns are more about 'does it work', in the sense of the reasons for training it a particular way; something that WSL was very much at pains to stress. In terms of the reasons for training the Ip Chun form, in my experience it does work by the terms of reference I cite above. If it is the case that Ip Chun created many aspects of this form, then I tip my hat to him because I indeed find it useful and an enhancement to my 'empty hand' wing chun.
Graham, yes I would like you to say more from your perspective about the practice of the knife forms you have been taught. I am very much interested to read your thoughts.
Although Ip Chun is not the worst at chi sau IMO he certainly is up there. Any way what does being good at chi sau mean? Its a training drill FFS!
He is an ok guy I'll give him that but the way his students suck up to him makes me sick.
Dude if you use you knives like Ip Chun you would be in trouble if somebody came at you with a weapon intent on hurting you but if you like it then thats fine. Not for me!
You want to ask a question about the knives then fire away but firstly I can ask you one. Why does Ip Chun punch at the start of the knife form? Do you know the reason why that is very bad and why you should in fact kick?
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