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    Quote Originally Posted by mickey View Post
    Greetings MarathonTmatt

    It took a WHILE to see the bird!

    With the u shaped ring: Did you notice how the stones appear to extend from and return back to the dark stone at the top. as if sitting at that top position was not just for prayer but for the receiving of assistance, answers, even knowledge; a real connection to the Ancestors and the Cosmos. There is also a yin and yang configuration going on there, with the darker half unexpressed, with the exception of the dark stone at the top; it's polar counterpart being the large white stone at the far-thest part of the loop.

    Just a couple of observations,

    mickey
    Very good observations! The dark stone at the top was definitley a focus point in the configuration and is also propped up (small standing stone.) As a matter of fact you could analyze the shape of this top standing stone and say it is "receptive" like this:

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-jGi6JUJnI2...600/Marks2.jpg

    Different types of stones as well as shapes and sizes were all taken into consideration with the building of all these structures, including the first post I made here of the shrine, and no 2 are alike which makes it fascinating. I know in other cultures around the world such as the Roman Empire that at one time or another they started producing same-size bricks for instance to make everything uniform. Although there are bountiful production sites in the ancient America's including my region they never made things uniformly the same which I guess is another classification for saying its indigenous.

    Also with the U-Shape structure it is along a hill-side. It is basically at the base of a small knoll that is the highest point in that immediate area. Places where earth, sky and water meet, especially water flowing in 2 or more directions (such as the Echo Lake site I posted- headwaters of the Charles, Blackstone & Sudbury rivers) was important. Like you were getting at spirits were important, the cosmos, ancestors, all those elements. Here is another distinct U-Shape stone ring/ prayer seat at another site also by a hill-side:

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-BU8rIrhvRM...600/zain16.jpg

    And a nearby cairn:

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9tmFwxtZp0...600/zain25.jpg

    As for the birds- yeah, I wish I could get better pictures of those. It is more apparent when looking at the sites in real life, although one still needs some schooling the way I did to start seeing how these sites turn up everywhere/ the different features. Here are some more smaller birds propped onto boulder platforms only about 20 yards apart:

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YDRPltJkvr.../wonder28A.jpg

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JqXoMwE6Db...0/wonder16.jpg

    Thanks for taking an interest! I will post more here and there- thank you for realizing that these structures are more than just piles of stones!

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    Hi,

    Thank you for sharing those photos. They are indeed amazing. It seems that they are making themselves and their purpose known.


    mickey
    Last edited by mickey; 10-15-2014 at 06:29 AM.

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    Solar Stone Observatory, Stone Calander Marker, Propped Stone Wall Boulders, Etc.

    First are these pics I took of a stone Solar Observatory. This was near an Earthen Mound site, also. Seen from one side, the observatory is a turtle effigy, from the other side, a stone bird. It also functions as an enclosure. The site is over-looking, earth, sky and water:

    the "turtle" side:

    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9htMi0ao-...00/mars36E.jpg

    over-looking the water:

    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5fLUXtENX...600/mars35.jpg

    the horizon point (the turtle's/bird's beak):

    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-M689uAaA2...00/mars36A.jpg

    from the other side, we see this structure is an enclosure and also a bird effigy (a dual bird/ turtle effigy):

    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WbU6pi9CE...600/mars36.jpg

    A nearby stone calander marker:

    https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-N6DBRROGs...00/mars44A.jpg

    A Native stone wall ruins:

    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Yg62R1Fsa...00/mars20K.jpg

    Terraced:

    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WYdBkdB5V...00/mars20B.jpg

    Propped boulder in a native wall:

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0-A478xPLC...s1600/col4.jpg

    From another angle (a hiking buddy got in the pic but hey- just shows the scale of the stone-work):

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Nybjd6MDyb...s1600/col3.jpg

    That's definitely enough pics for one post. Enjoy!

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    More Stone Markers & Stone Works

    Keep in mind these are in a ruinous state. These are just the "skeletal" remains. First, a Stone God effigy of a Bird. First pic seen from a profile, worked out from a boulder. If you can't see it at first tilt your head & stare for a second. You saw it here first:

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-AfqT8_V5Tq...1600/ada25.jpg

    From head-on:

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4YDtSrPRma...600/ada25B.jpg

    Stone mound on a ledge:

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-el8Miy6ttf...600/ada20A.jpg

    An enclosure:

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NyiCTNigE2...1600/ada5V.jpg

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Gny9YP802D...600/ada5VD.jpg

    Propped Boulder (propped off of the ground) working with the sun's energy:

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GPn11drZZO...1600/ada5Z.jpg

    Stone mound on the hillside:

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-s3c6LjRrix...600/ada5YA.jpg

    Stone cairn w/ turtle effigy incorporated into design:

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-nWv-K36at7...1600/ada5A.jpg

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vFBRm3eOSw...s1600/ada5.jpg

    Worked-out boulder serving as a Standing Stone horizon marker:

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PPNxUlWySa...1600/ada1U.jpg

    Another boulder propped and worked-out into position to serve as a horizon marker:

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-IyrrjAqER-...600/gia2GA.jpg

    Serpent Wall w/ headstone terminating on a ledge:

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YjomE-0aAr...1600/gia3F.jpg

    An obelisk-like Standing Stone:

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bu5NFe_6BG...1600/ada8A.jpg

    From this angle the Standing Stone has been marked out (white line running down):

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ji6H1dsBwk...1600/ada8B.jpg

    Worked-out/ chipped stone placed along a wall to refelct and amplify the sun's energy:

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-n94giZIs5f...600/ada14B.jpg

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zFEsf2z7gB...600/ada14C.jpg

    Refelcting the sun's light:
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vFuyUqPiZX...600/gia3GA.jpg

    Stone Ring:
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-awJE9pK2ca...600/ada10E.jpg

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    Pike Fish Effigy Monuments

    This one just makes sense. The Northern Pike Fish in the NorthEast region was no doubt a delicious food that sustained the people in pre-colonial times. Below are some stone pike fish effigies, possibly thousands of years old, compared to some more recent photos of people's pike fish catches for comparison.

    This pike fish effigy is part of a larger Algonquian stone wall that meanders through a bedrock ledge. The stone on the far right is the head-stone of the pike fish:

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XWOwhDCll8...600/rte19D.jpg

    Now compare that above pic to this recent picture of some random person's recent pike fish catch:

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9aCuCYe2UC...1600/pike2.jpg

    This next pic is of a stone cairn with what looks like a pike fish motiff. This cairn was probably used to make offereings before or after a catch:

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NrGhThX-3k...1600/rte38.jpg

    Compare the above picture to this recent picture of a random person's pike fish catch. The source of the pic for the recent catch is a 45 minute drive away from the site of the stone cairn:

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-2KXqOXByte...1600/pike1.jpg

    Related to these pike fish stoneworks is this other stone altar, in a ruinous and neglected state, also with a fish motiff:

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZPaVzcuBeh...s1600/ech5.jpg

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    The Great Horned Serpent

    The remains of a Serpent Wall- notice the head stone-

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-GEUuwU7iMf...600/rte18C.jpg

    You can notice the slit worked out in the boulder for the eyes, mouth, etc., and also that the boulder itself looks like the head of a snake. A friend played around with my picture & using "paint" application drew over the stonework, popping it back to life. He imagined something like this-

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NNwpDhqA9y...1600/serp3.jpg

    The above pic actually depicts the Great Horned Serpent, a revered deity throughout Native North America. The wall pics up a few yards away. Facing the head of the serpent, there is a propped boulder, and between the propped boulder and other rock is this wedged egg-shaped stone:

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-eIk1R7CWMR...00/rte18JA.jpg

    Also this circular petro-form underneath the propped boulder-

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-XMc-UBRK32...600/rte18F.jpg

    A stone cairn on a nearby hillside-

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-V6wxMicRGa...600/rte17D.jpg

    After seeing this site (in the NorthEast) it reminded me of the Ohio Serpent mound, which is a massive EarthWorks site-

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KpJhIvUsl7...1600/serp1.jpg

    As you can see the Earthworks site in Ohio and the Stone Works site (New England) have the same exact motiff. In both cases by the serpent's head is an egg-shaped circle, which travels off to the horizon.

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    Greetings MarathonTmatt,

    If you take another look at the Ohio drawing you will see that the Serpent's mouth is actually wide open and is about to swallow the "egg", suggesting some type of wormhole action for the Universe (well, you know how I catch things). The Serpent's eye is that disconnected part on the top side.

    mickey

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickey View Post
    Greetings MarathonTmatt,

    If you take another look at the Ohio drawing you will see that the Serpent's mouth is actually wide open and is about to swallow the "egg", suggesting some type of wormhole action for the Universe (well, you know how I catch things). The Serpent's eye is that disconnected part on the top side.

    mickey
    hi mickey-

    Thanks for the input- I hadn't noticed the eye before, but once I noticed what you were referring to it became obvious.

    Also about the New England site- there is a small brook that meanders alongside the Serpent Wall and the circular "egg-shaped" wedged stone, feeding into a swamp. Above the swamp is the hillside with the stone cairn. There are other stone cairns up there too, but the cairn in the picture (in a ruinous state, but still there at least) is the one most significantly lining up and adjacent to the Serpent Wall/ Egg-Wedged site. The wedged egg-shaped stone really attracted my attention when I looked at it, and seemed to be a focus point. Looking at the wedged stone there is a horizon point above the swamp and is in line with the hill.

    I went back to the Stone Shrine site with the winter solstice alignment (the 1st post on thread) and observed the early morning sunrise around the time of the solstice- when the sun came over the hill it was perfectly lined up with and illuminated the shrine. I noticed what was probably the old entry-way to the site, and three boulders that lined up sort of like an Orion's Belt symbolism. If this is the case as I suspect, than that makes the site more significant than just a winter solstice observation- that whole site could be what are the remains of a sophisticated solar observatory.

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    Chamber Over-Looking Quinebaug River + Cairn Effigies, Standing Stones - Pls View-

    The remains of the pre-colonial Chamber. This Chamber is built into a hillside over-looking the Quinebaug River. The Standing Stones are located on the roof top-

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-zfEoQZXnBv...1600/cha1E.jpg

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-oqkaAuooni...1600/cha1C.jpg

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Evm0elOaQa...s1600/cha1.jpg

    Inside (note how the structure was not only built into a hill, but around a boulder with the smaller stones dressed around the boulder)-

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1WC31_ti1T...s1600/cha2.jpg

    The roof slabs from inside-

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_HC-0fEIhu...1600/cha2B.jpg

    Standing Stones On the Roof, Over-looking the River-

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-a8v47z0XDD...1600/cha4B.jpg

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-pAdkJOaiDf...1600/cha5A.jpg

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TwQmRyq9vX...s1600/cha6.jpg

    Nearby Cairn Effigies & Stone Works of a grand scale On a Hillside-

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Bhza8909rz...00/boat12A.jpg

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3lMFMoh5jS...00/boat13C.jpg

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-i5ta_eoYvd...600/boat15.jpg

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-evwe1rB5IF...00/boat15A.jpg

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-25hR2IDhcH...600/boat17.jpg

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1usBZuWJst...00/boat17F.jpg

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-oy8nIxZVDb...600/boat18.jpg

    Stone row into boulder-

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-m0ABGVaSFh...600/boat20.jpg

    The remains of an elaborate structure/ enclosure (probably incorporated wooden poles, etc.)-

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-957EbpURTn...00/boat30A.jpg

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--Zr5vg30uh...600/boat28.jpg

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    Turtle Floating Thru the Sky


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    Greetings MarathonTmatt,

    I just found this site this morning and thought it might be of interest to you:

    http://www.ancientamerican.com/aa/

    And if any of the info happens to be a little off, the ancestors can make the corrections. You know what I mean.


    mickey

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickey View Post
    Greetings MarathonTmatt,

    I just found this site this morning and thought it might be of interest to you:

    http://www.ancientamerican.com/aa/

    And if any of the info happens to be a little off, the ancestors can make the corrections. You know what I mean.


    mickey
    Thank you, Mickey. I have seen that magazine on the newstand before. They certainly do seem to have some interesting, valuable and thought- provoking articles. The only problem I see with this mag, as I believe you already know, is that the contributers are pretty much all white and seem to be writing for a white audience. However, there is still valuable information presented in their publications. These people alot of times are diffusionists trying to give credit to structures, such as chambers, to ancient celtic/ phoenician peoples. They do this without doing the proper research into Native mythology, cosmology, oral traditions and research and applying that to the stone structures, as I do. For instance, in the Mik'Maq creation story (who are along the eastern seaboard) the first beasts and human-like creatures were created by Gloskabe, or Glooscap (a mighty deity), out of clay. This mirrors the middle-eastern (sumerian, early hebrew etc.) traditions of creating the first humans out of clay- but the thing is, which came first. And it goes to show that the Native traditions are just as alive and rich as other parts of the world thought to be more sophisticated.

    It is true that some structures in the New England / NorthEast area bear a resemblence to passage-chambers like the ones in Newgrange, Ireland. But the Irish legends themselves say that the builders of their mega-liths (stone structures) were a dark-skinned race from the west. In the NorthEast US and Canada, there is what academics call the "maritime archaic" people, aka the "Red Paint People" (Native ancestors). They were circum-navigating along the Northern Latitude lines of the NorthEast as far back as 11,500 years ago, and this is acknowledged by mainstream scholars. In Vermont, they found a fluted-point arrow-head that was 11,000 years old which was made from Rhama chert material, and the only place in the world that Rhama chert can be sourced from is Iceland. We know that there was trade from places like Florida all the way up to the NorthEast, and the Taino people of the Caribean even had permanent pre-colonial settlements in areas such as Tennessee, but now we know that people from the North East were going as far as Iceland 11,000 years ago to get production materials for tool/ weapon making. Stone effigies have also been found in Red Paint graves that are game-fish that are miles out to sea. They erected many Standing Stones as navigational devices.

    The Eastern United States has most of the water, and largest water-way systems, and the truth is the pre-colonial population was denser east of the Missisippi River. Because colonial expansion ended in the West at a later date, people are left with the Hollywood stereo-type of an Plains Indian with what they think of as native, and that the east as a virgin wilderness. Also, beyond 5,000 years ago, the water levels of the Atlantic ocean were much lower than they are today. Many islands, such as Martha's Vineyard off the coast of Massachusetts, used to be part of the main-land, and also places like Long Island in New York. What should astound anyone, though, is the sea-farring skills of these native ancestors 11,000 + years ago. One thing I noticed is that a lot of pre-colonial stone walls I explore (which spiral and meander through ledges, edges of swamp, etc.) seem to be retaining water in, and can withstand earthquakes. As if they were built with the prior knowledge of previous cataclysms.

    I would recomend the book "Manitou" by James Mavor and Byron Dix to anyone. They were open-minded scientists and did a lot of work with New England sites in the 1970's/ 80's, mapping out the cosmology of sites and doing a lot of archeo-astronomy work, finding out how sites relate to star constelations and solar observatory. They also did a good job of showing Native American connections to the sites. Back to Ancient American magazine. They have alot of valuable stuff, but they always tend to put a white twist to it. I am not totally discounting this, though. Ancient Celtic people apparantly had advanced seafaring knowledge and ship-building skills. When Julius Caesar invaded the British Isles in the 2nd century, he targeted the priest class and anyone with the knowledge of how to build ships. Their ships were more advanced and sea-worthy than the ships that Columbus and Pilgrims sailed at much later dates. It is possible some Celtic people made it to the America's. However, in America there was a council fire always lit by the pawwows on every hill-top, which could be seen miles out to sea- the whole eastern seaboard was lit. If these refuge Celtic people came in peace they probably married in to native cultures. Also, there is the possibility of sunken land masses in the Atlantic Ocean. For instance, Gaelic and Irish Ogham inscriptions does bear some resemblence to some of the Algonquin language and Algonquin stone inscriptions, thus there is confusion with white people who do not know the tradition of Algonquin stone-marking. If there is a common origin, I would say it is possibly due to the sunken land masses along the Atlantic water-ways, before 12,000 years ago, when communication on both sides of the Atlantic would have been easier.

    Here are some important video links for anyone to watch- the first is about the 7 Fires Prophecy, an important Native prophecy-

    https://youtu.be/STVfqA0KUM0

    From the "Hidden Landscapes" series. "Ice Age Navigators" short-

    https://youtu.be/rpXGVOu9Bkk

    https://youtu.be/c7ET5LIhkx8

    Some Mormon guy quoting Vine Deloria Jr. (Sioux scholar/ activist). "They Came from The East" (gee, thats what my grandfather also said, and his parent's before him)-

    https://youtu.be/pXDjaivinbQ

    dang, how did i type so much, lol.

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    Here are links to a resourceful website, archaelogist Jack Dempsey.

    Here is the time-line of the north-east notes. Talks about: bering strait theory in question. "early pioneer" sites such as Meadowceaft in Pensylvania are 16,000 yrs. old. How the northeast landscape was different than it is today before the Wisconsin glacier. water levels rose 6 ft/ year, people had to move more inland. large sunken landmasses along the coastal areas, even miles out into the Atlantic. Red Paint people could have been land/ island hopping along now sunken islands/ land masses in the Atlantic to safer places in-land (along the water-ways). Ancient "Red Paint" (Native) People known to build in stone, such as stone houses. Known for making very advanced sophisticated effigies and tools. Erected standing stones for navigation. Domesticated the "Carolina" dog, a relative of the Australian Dingo. Shows how many land-masses sunk-

    http://www.ancientlights.org/tl1.html

    Stoneworks, corn & calanders (shows sophisticated artifacts, knowledge of astronomy)-

    http://www.ancientlights.org/stoneworks.html

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    Greetings,

    Thank you for the information, MarathonTmatt

    What you shared about rising waters rang a bell. Back in 2008, I shared with a classmate of mine that Atlantis might well be here and that rising waters could make a distant land mass appear to sink.

    It seems that a blanket has been thrown about ancient peoples and their connections "elsewhere". If I could pick up on these things without trying, I know I am not the only one.


    mickey

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