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    Biu Tze- Snake hand

    a few movements from the opening section of the bil Tze form. The first movement is to release a wrist grab followed by a finger strike to the throat. An alternative would be to use kum Na on the opponents wrist and break it. Instead I choose a simple release.

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    Have you ever tried to finger jab someone in the throat for real? It may not take much to hurt someone, but I think it would take a lot more conditioning than many take for granted in order to not accidentally hurt yourself. To me, the juice is not worth the squeeze for finger strikes.

    Besides, when hair is flying it'd be very difficult to be that accurate at speed. Even in this demonstration you missed the throat and had to move your hand back over to it. In a real scuffle, you might end up jamming your fingers on their chest, shoulder, or hard skull depending on what sudden movements they may be taking.

    Not a fan of the finger jab idea, but those actions aren't finger jabs in my VT anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LFJ View Post
    Have you ever tried to finger jab someone in the throat for real?
    I have been hit by fingers strike on my throat by the most senior guy in a style that's famous in finger strike. It didn't hurt me a bit. Since that day, I lose interest in my finger tip strength training.

    IMO, it's better to apply "封(Feng) – throat squeezing" to use your "tiger mouth" to hold onto your opponent's throat than just to hit the throat. A throat squeezing can allow you to do many other things.
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    Agreed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LFJ View Post
    Have you ever tried to finger jab someone in the throat for real? It may not take much to hurt someone, but I think it would take a lot more conditioning than many take for granted in order to not accidentally hurt yourself. To me, the juice is not worth the squeeze for finger strikes.

    Besides, when hair is flying it'd be very difficult to be that accurate at speed. Even in this demonstration you missed the throat and had to move your hand back over to it. In a real scuffle, you might end up jamming your fingers on their chest, shoulder, or hard skull depending on what sudden movements they may be taking.

    Not a fan of the finger jab idea, but those actions aren't finger jabs in my VT anyway.

    Yes. I did once and it worked very well. I also was hit in the throat also. that was not a pleasant feeling to say the least. Finger strikes are very effect if you use it right and train your fingers.If you have weak fingers what do you think your going to do with it? Its like having a weak punch then you say punches don't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stonecrusher69 View Post
    An alternative would be to use kum Na on the opponents wrist and break it. Instead I choose a simple release.
    Another alternative would be to live in a parallel universe where your wrist hairs worked like flypaper to automatically stick to the hand of someone grabbing you. In that universe a kum na wrist break from there might actually work realistically. Or if you're Wally Jay with an untrained partner. Or if you're in the company of Steven Seagal. Then all that BS works apparently. But that's because of the rose tinted sunglasses he wears.

    Stick with your release and throat massage, big man. That's a better option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayfaring View Post
    Another alternative would be to live in a parallel universe where your wrist hairs worked like flypaper to automatically stick to the hand of someone grabbing you. In that universe a kum na wrist break from there might actually work realistically. Or if you're Wally Jay with an untrained partner. Or if you're in the company of Steven Seagal. Then all that BS works apparently. But that's because of the rose tinted sunglasses he wears.

    Stick with your release and throat massage, big man. That's a better option.
    ok Mr.expert..I shall do what you say..Butt first..


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    I like your "double switch hands" at 0.4 - 0.8. IMO, that's the highest level technique in the striking art. You have to be very good to understand and demo this technique. Great job!

    Here is the definition of "double switch hand". It came from the Bagua system. I don't know if you use the same term or not.

    - You attack with right hand.
    - your opponent blocks with his left hand.
    - You use left hand to re-block his left hand block, free your right hand, and continue attack with your right hand (so far you are using "single switch hand").
    - Your opponent blocks with this right hand.
    - When his right hand expose his center, You attack with your left hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    I like your "double switch hands" at 0.4 - 0.8. IMO, that's the highest level technique in the striking art. You have to be very good to understand and demo this technique. Great job!

    Here is the definition of "double switch hand". It came from the Bagua system. I don't know if you use the same term or not.

    - You attack with right hand.
    - your opponent blocks with his left hand.
    - You use left hand to re-block his left hand block, free your right hand, and continue attack with your right hand (so far you are using "single switch hand").
    - Your opponent blocks with this right hand.
    - When his right hand expose his center, You attack with your left hand.

    Thank you, glad your like the Vid..No in WC we don't use the term " double switch hands." I do know what you mean though..thanks again.
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