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    Kung Fu Weapon Posession In A Park (Ontario)

    Hi everyone! I'm looking for legal sources that outline the possession of kung fu weapons at a park. I checked e-laws for a bit and only found stuff on guns. I want to practice at the park across the street without any trouble because my backyard is pretty small. Please let me know if you have any information or portals that could steer me in the right direction towards the written laws that describe said topic. I wish to pursue loopholes so that I may bring them to the park and practice. Also I'm assuming if I wanted to walk to the park it would have to be concealed in a case. I heard that somewhere, but I never saw written evidence to prove it to be true.


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    Greetings skyjhand and welcome to the forum,

    You would probably be better off consulting your local police department about that. We are now considered "nation states" (the term is popping up more and more). So, your state laws are the deciding factor with your inquiry.

    Have you considered using wooden weapons or varying lengths of sticks? It is much less of a headache. And who would want to confiscate a bunch of sticks? For a chain, attach a handball to a length of rope.

    mickey

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    We don't have states in Canada. We have provinces.

    No, don't consult the police, they enforce law and do not give good legal advice.
    Better to know the law and know your rights. The police are not there to assist you in that matter. They are there to arrest you if you break the law, That is their job.

    You can find the laws regarding the use of such things in our criminal code.
    Here is some information that narrows that down for you.
    It is presented by a lawyer and it is relating specifically to Ontario.

    http://ejmas.com/tin/2004tin/tinart_agnew_0104.html
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    Weapons in the U.S.



    What is legal to carry is a tricky thing here in America because there are municipal weapon laws on top of federal laws. For example, nunchuks are illegal in California, Massachusetts and New York. But they are also illegal in certain counties that have made specific bans against them. For an overview, see When Nunchuk Skills Get You Busted: Nunchaku and the Law by Greg Lynch Jr. As for Ontario, I can't speak to that specifically, but I do know that our parent company Tiger Claw does not ship nunchuks to Canada. There's always issues getting 'weapons' shipped to Canada.

    When it comes to 'kung fu' weapons, that's a little trickier because our arsenal is so exotic that many of our weapons aren't defined specifically within the law. This is where it becomes the decision of the arresting officer. The arresting officer can determine intention, basically if you are carrying said weapon with malicious intent. I've also had Kung Fu brothers get shaken down in a way where a particular weapon was defined as something else - officers tried to get them to define a chain whip as a nunchuk and in another case, butterfly knives as Filipino Butterfly Knives. It can be a very delicate situation.
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    A very long time ago, I was practicing in a park here in SoCal with some KF weapons...specifically, a wooden dan dao (single broadsword). On this occasion, a cop drove up, sat in his car awhile, then came up to me and said someone reported a man in the park swinging around a 'samurai sword'. Apparently, someone from one of the nearby houses called it in, but he wouldn't say who. He examined my wooden broadsword a bit, then handed it back and told me to be careful with it(!).

    The park in question is often used for little league, soccer, tennis, etc., but on that morning it was empty except for me. Even if the 'weapon' you are using is only a wooden prop, you could still have the cops called on you. Luckily, I only had my wooden dao and not my steel-bladed gim which, although not really sharp, would have undoubtedly given the cop some ammunition to question me further.

    Later, I taught KF for a few years in a bayside park, but this time it was near a small police station and a main lifeguard station. Prior to teaching, I informed them of my intent to teach and asked about any legal issues of teaching in public. We later trained with staffs, and the cops and lifeguards there knew who I was, so we never had any issues with them.

    At this point, I no longer train in public parks anymore. Weapons-wise, the only one I handle at all right now is the staff, and I only do bag work and target training (no forms) with it, so my backyard is sufficient for that.
    Last edited by Jimbo; 09-15-2014 at 11:13 AM.

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