Wing Chun Esoterica

[dlcox]

I would like to use this thread as a platform to bring up odd, unusual and interesting topics concerning people's more esoteric views and thoughts on Wing Chun outside of mainstream thought.

[dlcox]

Here is something I find myself pondering.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1RlwzKAcnI

This is the Siu Lim Tau Sei Mun form of the Chan Wah Shun/Chan Yiu Min line. Of particular interest is the Sei Mun part which starts at 107.

I find that it bears quite a resemblance in concept as well as choreography to this well known Okinawan Kata.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fO9HJdf5z4

Even phonetically their names sound similar, is this coincidence or could they at one time have come from the same now lost well spring?

Your thoughts.




p.s. Whats up with the little angry emoji, is that a moderator thing?

[Kellen Bassette]

Here is something I find myself pondering.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1RlwzKAcnI

This is the Siu Lim Tau Sei Mun form of the Chan Wah Shun/Chan Yiu Min line. Of particular interest is the Sei Mun part which starts at 107.

I find that it bears quite a resemblance in concept as well as choreography to this well known Okinawan Kata.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fO9HJdf5z4

Even phonetically their names sound similar, is this coincidence or could they at one time have come from the same now lost well spring?

Your thoughts.




p.s. Whats up with the little angry emoji, is that a moderator thing?

I studied Isshinryu and Go Ju Ryu, both of which have versions of that kata, (Isshinryu's being derived of Go Ju Ryu's.)
It is commonly taught that the kata came from China. Really, the majority of classical Okinawan kata is probably from China and were "Okinawanized," there are certainly plenty of sensei that say so.

As to the emoticon, you probably accidentally clicked one in the "post icons" table that appears under the text body when you post. That puts them at the heading of your post...I've accidentally done that before and I don't think you can edit that part later.

[deejaye72]

[QUOTE=dlcox;1277054]Here is something I find myself pondering.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1RlwzKAcnI

This is the Siu Lim Tau Sei Mun form of the Chan Wah Shun/Chan Yiu Min line. Of particular interest is the Sei Mun part which starts at 107.

I find that it bears quite a resemblance in concept as well as choreography to this well known Okinawan Kata.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fO9HJdf5z4

Even phonetically their names sound similar, is this coincidence or could they at one time have come from the same now lost well spring?

Your thoughts.
good post dave interesting!

[PalmStriker]

Did not see much similarity in the Chan Wah SLT set and the Okinawan set other than an established rhythm in the performance of both sets.

[dlcox]

Did not see much similarity in the Chan Wah SLT set and the Okinawan set other than an established rhythm in the performance of both sets.

Camera angle plays a part IMO, making it a bit more difficult to clearly see some movements. I think that they have enough in common to be distant cousins. Another factor that comes into play is the structure and choreography. All that aside the oral legends of both systems claim a similar origin, if this is true will never be known but still interesting to ponder.

[bawang]

i dont know anything about wing chun erotica, but maybe if you do chi sao with a gay person they get turned on.