No Kung Fu in a Fight Video Yet

[KungFuTruth]

I've sat here and watched a lot of fight videos linked in numerous threads on every sub-forum. In every fight video, all I've seen so far is both fighters using either Western Boxing or a combination of Kick Boxing / Western Wrestling. Not a single fight video shows anyone actually using a style of Kung Fu in the fight.

I see there are a lot of kick boxing coaches on this website (pretending to be Kung Fu Masters) who obviously "learned" some Kung Fu from books / dvd's and set up fake Kung Fu schools with the real intention of training kick boxers for competitions.

Anyone have a fight video in which one of the participants is actually using a style of Kung Fu?

[Firehawk4]

I dont think Kung Fu looks like Boxing or Kickboxing in a boxing ring i think Kung Fu is suposed to look different in real fighting on the street . But what it looks like on the street or in real selfdefense i dont know .

[KungFuTruth]

Firehawk4,

Kung Fu always looks like whichever style of Kung Fu the person is using regardless of whether it's used in a classroom, a ring, or on the streets. Where someone is using a system of fighting doesn't change how it looks. Regardless of where they're using it, all boxers look like they're using Boxing and all wrestlers look like they're using Wrestling. Yet none of the people I've seen in any fight video on this forum looks like they're using any style of Kung Fu (because they aren't) even tho the videos claim they are.

[pazman]

Allow me to set the tone for this thread:

[pazman]

Firehawk4,

Kung Fu always looks like whichever style of Kung Fu the person is using regardless of whether it's used in a classroom, a ring, or on the streets. Where someone is using a system of fighting doesn't change how it looks. Regardless of where they're using it, all boxers look like they're using Boxing and all wrestlers look like they're using Wrestling. Yet none of the people I've seen in any fight video on this forum looks like they're using any style of Kung Fu (because they aren't) even tho the videos claim they are.

It sounds like you studied at some tootie-frootie forms school and never sparred. Fighting looks like fighting.

[Vicius]

That´s because you are thinking in forms and movies, techniques in Kung Fu are not shown in the same manner that they are executed in real fight situation, well some actually are, but not the most, and forms, I always say that they are theory, pure theory that are showed in a pure form, and don't always show the real intention of a technique, that's because you need to keep that information for yourself, you don't need other people, wich may fight you, to watch the truth abouth your techniques, kung fu is based on deception. So look good, forms are idealization of a thechnique, and in some casses they don't show all you need to know, that's the secret that keep the practitioner.

[hskwarrior]

No Kung Fu in a Fight Video Yet

I've sat here and watched a lot of fight videos linked in numerous threads on every sub-forum. In every fight video, all I've seen so far is both fighters using either Western Boxing or a combination of Kick Boxing / Western Wrestling. Not a single fight video shows anyone actually using a style of Kung Fu in the fight.

I see there are a lot of kick boxing coaches on this website (pretending to be Kung Fu Masters) who obviously "learned" some Kung Fu from books / dvd's and set up fake Kung Fu schools with the real intention of training kick boxers for competitions.

Anyone have a fight video in which one of the participants is actually using a style of Kung Fu?

you must be looking for a shaw brother rehearsed kung fu fight. that's your problem. you don't know what to look for in kung fu cause you are most likely NOT a gung fu guy. but a gung fu hater.
you're blind if you say you've watched choy lee fut videos and didn't see techniques exclusive to choy lee fut.

study some gung fu first before claiming you don't see anything.

[lkfmdc]

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[Kellen Bassette]

I see there are a lot of kick boxing coaches on this website (pretending to be Kung Fu Masters) who obviously "learned" some Kung Fu from books / dvd's and set up fake Kung Fu schools with the real intention of training kick boxers for competitions.

Why would anyone start a fake Kung Fu school with the sole purpose of training kick boxers under a false premise? Why wouldn't they just start a kick boxing school?
Do you realize how absurd that sounds?

[lkfmdc]

Why would anyone start a fake Kung Fu school with the sole purpose of training kick boxers under a false premise? Why wouldn't they just start a kick boxing school?
Do you realize how absurd that sounds?

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[Kellen Bassette]

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yeah yeah....I just couldn't believe everyone left that out while calling him on his other nonsense...I felt like someone should do it.

[wiz cool c]

Why would anyone start a fake Kung Fu school with the sole purpose of training kick boxers under a false premise? Why wouldn't they just start a kick boxing school?
Do you realize how absurd that sounds?

you got a point there.

It won’t look like a kung fu movie that is for sure but lot of the principles and techniques learned in traditional kung fu can be used in kickboxing type sparring or competing. I have been training at a thaiboixing school for the last few months doing a lot of sparring. Some techniques I use often that come directly from kung fu. first is a move I learned from Bok Mei a long time ago. You start out in a right foot forward fighting stance and drop levels into a short horse stance and fire a mid level right hand strike to your opponent's stomach. Just used this one last week against one of the new teachers from Thailand. Another technique that seems to work well is a move from the shaolin xiao hong quan form, where you kind of cup deflect the punch then follow through with either a lead or rear punch of your own. I find this works well when the same hand [lead hand] does the deflection block into a jab. Rooting , sticking neutralizing also used often in sparring. But known of these methods or techniques would be recognizable as a distinct kung fu method in sparring.

[Kellen Bassette]

you got a point there.

It won’t look like a kung fu movie that is for sure but lot of the principles and techniques learned in traditional kung fu can be used in kickboxing type sparring or competing. I have been training at a thaiboixing school for the last few months doing a lot of sparring. Some techniques I use often that come directly from kung fu. first is a move I learned from Bok Mei a long time ago. You start out in a right foot forward fighting stance and drop levels into a short horse stance and fire a mid level right hand strike to your opponent's stomach. Just used this one last week against one of the new teachers from Thailand. Another technique that seems to work well is a move from the shaolin xiao hong quan form, where you kind of cup deflect the punch then follow through with either a lead or rear punch of your own. I find this works well when the same hand [lead hand] does the deflection block into a jab. Rooting , sticking neutralizing also used often in sparring. But known of these methods or techniques would be recognizable as a distinct kung fu method in sparring.

Yeah the people I know and train with talk a lot about this stuff...I'm actually convinced Muay Boran is related to TCMA. A lot of people disagree, but for me, there's too much in common with old gong fu and the poems seem so similar. I think all the southeast kickboxing styles are the same art, with just slight regional variations, cultural influences....seems like the same root is apparent in Muay Thai, Muay Lao, Lethwai, Kun Khmer...off topic but this tread deserves hijacking anyway...

[MarathonTmatt]

Yeah the people I know and train with talk a lot about this stuff...I'm actually convinced Muay Boran is related to TCMA. A lot of people disagree, but for me, there's too much in common with old gong fu and the poems seem so similar. I think all the southeast kickboxing styles are the same art, with just slight regional variations, cultural influences....seems like the same root is apparent in Muay Thai, Muay Lao, Lethwai, Kun Khmer...off topic but this tread deserves hijacking anyway...

I think you are right about this, that is at least the sense of it i have gotten when looking at those styles & comparing- just regional differences, old cultural and modern cultural influences pushing the traditional arts in different directions, etc.

[Firehawk4]

Old Thaiboxing in my Thaiboxing Manual looks like old Kung Fu before Western Boxing was added to Thaiboxing in maybe the 1920 s. Also India s martial arts systems might have had some influence on those arts Thaiboxing , Burmese Boxing maybe Thaing and Bando to.