marsh' comment holds true in my case. in my wt family, anyon who's been studying longer will always be my elder. there's a girl at my school who's maybe 15 (i'm 24) and a couple levels behind me, but she'll always be my sije. also, when i get my assistant instructor license and thus line up with them instead of the regular students, she will still be my sije.
it's just one of those things that was, is and always will be for me.
however, familial ties and how they're viewed differ within familys. i think fu-pow's situation is quite neat. i like the idea of an admittance ceremony. we have one of our own, but it's kind of unique and self-made within the school.
" i wonder how many people take their post bone marrow transplant antibiotics with amberbock" -- GDA