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SHemmati
add to this the 2nd form of Taizu Chang quan, at least it's the 2nd form to Taizu Chang quan as mentioned by the Encyclopedia. so in your xiyuan sect the 3 forms of Liu Zhenhai's so-called xiao Tong Bi quan are the Tong Bei quan. then what is the standard so-called da Tong Bi quan called there? Bi or Bei? i mean the standard Shaolin da Tong Bi quan, which should have 2 more forms there. this Shaolin standard da Tong Bi quan (or Bei) has a big technical share with Taizu Chang quan itself. i have some more words on this to be said in following posts.
there's a hou quan that is said to based on which this renshou Tong Bi qua has been created. it's much similar to this renshou form. probably this yuan hou style you've seen is the same. to add to that, i've heard in Kaifeng they have a couple of Tong Bi Yuan (Tong Bi ape) quan forms, which is also similar to nanyuan Tong Bi quan. also, the northern and eastern courtyards(yuan's) should have their tong bi/bei quans, cause it's allegedly the most diversified Shaolin style.
haha! right. even i'm not sure the Chinese people themselves exactly understand what they hear or read. to add to the frustration, i have to say that, right now, in your profile you ought to change the word 空(kong) to 宗(zong), 禅宗派(chan zong pai) Chan school kung fu, is it this? that's the Chinese language anyway, we have to put up with it in whole our lives.
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The Standard DaTongbei is bei. Its the same style as the XiaoTongbei, they go together perfectly. Tongbei is shaolins most longfist style, though Shaolin often gets called longfist the vast majority is duanda and tieshenkao but Tongbei is long fist. This also goes together with the NanyuanDaTongbei that Deyang performs, looking closely you will see the overlap in techniques between NanyuanDatongbei and XiaoTongbei er lu (also known as Daliuhequan and perhaps erlutaizuchangquan but I would have to see the lyrics)
I am assuming Renshoutongbi (Bi) is related to RuanJiaChui but I can't confirm this, its more a hunch.
Thats a reasonable guess, ChanZongPai would work, however it is specifically ChanKONG, i.e 'Meditation on the void'.
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