yeah that's happening now. they are better equipped to answer that than i am since the revolutions were in their country.
周洪龍 金山鴻勝武舘 - 鴻勝佛家正宗
yeah that's happening now. they are better equipped to answer that than i am since the revolutions were in their country.
Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better
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Great,
The identification of the boy is crucial in discovering who the center soldier is.
Correction to post 55 (in vertical capitals):
"I thought so, too, until I saw where you got the image from. Never once did I ever view the center soldier image as YOUNGER than Chan Ngau Sing, even when I saw the photo on ebay a few years ago. I see the soldier photo as older that the group photo. In my opinion the center soldier is older by a bit, yet is very strong. I will still say father and son."
Last edited by mickey; 11-24-2014 at 02:14 PM.
周洪龍 金山鴻勝武舘 - 鴻勝佛家正宗
i'm witcha!
Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better
Itinerant practitioner
Finally! Xinhai Revolutionaries that actually have rifles!
Kung Fu is good for you.
周洪龍 金山鴻勝武舘 - 鴻勝佛家正宗
Hung Sing Choy Lee Fut was heavily involved in the Xinhai revolution. Even in the movie bodyguards and assassins, one of the characters in the movie was a CLF guy in real life. not just hung sing but many CLF people were down for the cause. and yes they had rifles too.
Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better
周洪龍 金山鴻勝武舘 - 鴻勝佛家正宗
some people were trying to say that the boxer photo was a picture of imperial soldiers during the boxer rebellion.
well turns out bud judkins is wrong about the photo and who was in it. The true source of the photo's existence is a japanese temple and was first published in 1956.Kung Fu historian Ben Judkins describes the first picture as a Qing police patrol, not a group of revolutionaries.
here is a picture of chinese imperial forces of 1900's side by side with the boxers. in fact, members of fut san hung sing were known for traveling to the north to aid in their revolutions.
Fut San Hung Sing has confirmed that the guy on the left is Chan Ngau Sing.
Last edited by hskwarrior; 11-28-2014 at 11:26 AM.
Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better
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Greetings,
Congratulations on the confirmation!
mickey
周洪龍 金山鴻勝武舘 - 鴻勝佛家正宗
Thanks........
Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better
周洪龍 金山鴻勝武舘 - 鴻勝佛家正宗
Short Background info about this picture:
In Fut San before the liberation there were two opposing martial art factions. On one side you had the Hung Sing Kwoon and Chan Sing’s Lo Chung Lion Dance club along with Yuè ān shè, xié lián shè, yuǎn lián shè děng, yě chēng wèi shè zì pài. On the other side you have the rival factions of Xingyi (兴义), Qun Yi (群义) , Yong justice (勇义), loyalty (忠义), the British justice (英义) , Ju Yi Mo Kwoon (聚义武馆) merged together to form the “All Righteousness Society” and formed the Lion Dance Club called Zhāo Jìng (Hòu hébìng wèi “zhòng yì”) hé wàiwéi shī huì “zhāo jìng”). These two factions have been fiercely fighting for decades since the Qing Dynasty. Their disputes were not mere factionalism, but a battle between two progressive forces.
Fut San was a industrial center for art and handicrafts but closed down after the Opium War because of massive unemployment and were impacted by foreign goods. Because of political changes, inflation, and the threat of warlords made the peoples lives more difficult. On the other hand, the capitalists were reaping the rewards by colluding with the reactionary trade unions and the triad. The federation of trade unions in Guangzhou at the time were controlled by the Loyalty and Righteousness Martial Arts school who were used to oppress the workers. All of the people who wanted to stand against the oppression joined the Fut San Hung Sing Kwoon or the Lo Chung Lion Dance group to learn self defense. The battles between these two factions were getting increasingly fierce.
Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better
Registered User
Greetings,
Thank you for the history, hskwarrior.
Given that history, I took another look at the photo from a numbers perspective. It appears that the three guys each have three people with them, standing at their back. That would definitely put that boy in Chan Ngau Sing's company and it explains the slight turn of his body, acknowledging the people who were at his back, so to speak.
Question: Is there anything to suggest that Chan Ngau Sing is missing a finger on his left hand? I thought it was the cold forcing him to hide his hand in the military shot. In the seated group photo, two joints of his ring finger are exposed; yet, there is no pinky showing.
mickey
Last edited by mickey; 11-30-2014 at 10:40 AM.
周洪龍 金山鴻勝武舘 - 鴻勝佛家正宗
no, its there...just hidden. look....
Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better
周洪龍 金山鴻勝武舘 - 鴻勝佛家正宗
in regards to how Chan Sing is sitting in the picture, it's my opinion based on how he is sitting is his left foot is out in preparation of getting up quickly in case something were to happen. i've actually done that myself, that's why i'm assuming he ready to go if need be.
Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better
Registered User
Hi,
Thank you for the photo enhancement.
mickey
周洪龍 金山鴻勝武舘 - 鴻勝佛家正宗
I think i've discovered who the boy is in this big group picture we're talking about. the following is possibly the older and younger version of the same person.
for me, the eyes, and nose are very similar. mouth looks different but both have a dip in the chin and their eyes are slanted the same way.
Last edited by hskwarrior; 11-30-2014 at 06:51 PM.
Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better
周洪龍 金山鴻勝武舘 - 鴻勝佛家正宗
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Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better
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