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  1. #16
    joedoe Guest
    Well, to be fair, the midichlorian thing isn't necessarily contrary to the whole concept of the Force. Didn't he say in Phanton Menace that the midichlorians help to direct the Force, and that Jedi simply have a higher midichlorian count than normal? I don't think he meant that the midichlorians are the Force, just that they help people to use the Force.

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  2. #17
    Crimson Phoenix Guest
    What made me wonder is the fact that Anakin was born from an immaculate conception (his mother had no man, and she wonders how she got pregnant, right?). Then at the Jedi council, Qui Gon tells Yoda that he's never seen that much Midichlorian in a human and says "he might even have been conceived by the midichlorians"...so it sounds like Midichlorians are living organisms, an alien form of life, or maybe remnants or descendants from an alien civilisation that has disappeared? I'd like to know more about that...First I thought he pulled this explanation out of his azz, but after thinking about it you could really have a good story about it...
    What about the Sith? Where do they come from? How come no one ever heard of them in thousands of years?
    And Palpatine? The guy is obviously a Jedi in episode 6, is he already a Jedi in episode 1? If so, how could he go unnoticed as well? If not, how did he become one? Did he teach Darth Maul? Or did some other Sith teach him? Arrrghhhh I need to know
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    Anyway for the black clothes thingie, I think I have seen some Jedi wearing black at the Jedi council...doesn't Samuel Jackson wear a black jacket (or maybe it's dark brown, don't remember...)

  3. #18
    kungfu cowboy Guest

    What a lyin' *******!

    Is that true about the DVD thing? If yes, then there should be NO DVD. Period. He should have to buy back everybody's VHS version. Gee, that wasn't planned was it? And the Phantom Menace SUCKED anyway! P-U! Lucas is a dweeb!! I bet the ext two movies suck too!! :mad:

  4. #19
    JasBourne Guest
    Phantom Menace was only good if you are ten years old or under, and/or still developing your own personality and self-image. George Lucas is gearing his movies and marketing directly to the 7-to-14 male viewer (and emotional equivalent) demographic. Don't expect anything else from him.

    Jet Li's movies have beautifully choreographed wushu fight scenes and really boring, predictable, mawkish plots. The One is no different. Jet really needs to take 1/10th of the budget allocation for SFX and invest it in decent writers, a concept that continually eludes him. Sorry, Jet, but the days when you could take a simplistic moral concept and wrap a two hour movie around it died when the talkies were born.

    :p

  5. #20
    Sam Wiley Guest
    See, that's part of my point about Lucas. He lets all these writers write stories that happen after Jedi, instructing them that all the books have to be interlinked. So a character couldn't die in one book by one author and then pop up later in the timeline in another book by another author. A fine idea in itself, but he now plans to hang it up after Episode III? WTF man!? Who gives a rat's ass if Anakin gets with Amidala? We already know he had two kids with her, and we therefore know the story. We know what happened to the galaxy re: the phantom menace, the clone wars, and the extermination of the Jedi. We know that Anakin falls to the Dark Side and becomes Darth Vader. We know that Palpatine sets himself up to be emperor Hitler style and takes over. We know everything up until the end of Jedi. So unless there are some hardcore porn scenes with Natalie Portman in here somewhere, I'm more interested in the continuation of the story. I want to know more about Han and Leia's kids, Luke's relationship with the character most hated by Lucas- Mara Jade- the reconstruction of the galaxy, and the new Jedi order. I want more scenes with Rogue squadron, I want to see the Emperor Reborn stuff and I want to see Luke try to infiltrate the Dark Side to destroy it from within, become seduced by it, and have to be pulled from it's embrace by his sister.

    He dropped us in in the middle of the story, filled us in on what came before and hinted at what's to come, and now he feels he has to rehash crap we already know and forego bringing us the promised rest of the story? It's not like he has to write the whole thing himself, ******. Hell, he had other people helping him write the others, why can't he just commision some scripts from the best writers in the biz and be done with it? It's not like they don't have plenty of material to work with.

    But then again, we ARE talking about the guy who titled the last Indiana Jones movie "the last crusade" and immediately after filming ended began writing the next one, aren't we? I mean, c'mon. He found the Holy Grail, the unattainable, for Pete's sake, was reunited with his father, met Hitler at a book burning, etc. It doesn't get any better and doesn't need to be continued.

    When they decided to put an end to A Nightmare on Elm Street and Friday the 13th, they did. Of course, there was no more audience for the films anyway. When Zemeckis promised a sequel at the end of Back to the Future with the words, "to be continued..." he bloody well delivered. In fact, he delivered two films at once and finished the **** story!

    John Milton didn't give up one chapter shy of finishing Paradise Lost and publish it anyway! Stephen King didn't stop one book shy of finishing The Green Mile! The producers of Ultraviolet didn't give up halfway through the series and decide that they couldn't go on! Eidos didn't quit after the first Tomb Raider game! Gygax and Arneson didn't stop after their first edition of Dungeons & Dragons, they kept going with additions ot the game! The Christian Bible, which is a religious text and doesn't have to have an ending since it deals mostly with history, ends with the Revelation! Wouldn't you be ****ed if you started learning a martial art like Xingyi, and your teacher suddenly decided to stop teaching the Crossing Fist? What if you learned a Taiji form from your teacher and he refused to show you the last few moves, the finishing sequence? What if you signed up for a language course that claimed you would be taught to read AND write Mandarin Chinese, and halfway into the course, you were informed that the teacher no longer taught the writing portion? What if you bought a copy of the Karate Kid movie, and the tape stopped short of the final fight scene?

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    [This message was edited by Sam Wiley on 11-05-01 at 04:58 PM.]

  6. #21
    Sam Wiley Guest
    Okay, I missed the question about the Sith. They were originally a band of renegade Jedi who left the order behind when they were forbidden to study the dark side. They found a planet where they could hide and study, whose inhabitants, the Sith race, worshiped them as gods pretty much, and they took over and ruled the Sith. (Hence the title Dark Lord of the Sith.) Eventually, they mixed the Sith religious beliefs with their own philosophies. If you go to your local hobby or book store, you can probably still find the Dark Side resource book for the Star Wars role playing game, which fills in some blanks and collects information from a bunch of the different writers in one place. The core rule book has a lot of interesting stuff abou the Jedi, and they'll probably come out with a Light Side resource book that will have more.

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  7. #22
    joedoe Guest
    If you listen carefully in Phantom Menace, Qui Gon explains midichlorians. They are a symbiont life form that dwells within all living things.

    Someone once told me that there can only ever be 2 Sith Lords, a master and a student, because if there are more then they will fight amongst themselves until there is only 2. Kinda like what was happening at the end of ROTJ when Luke is fighting Darth Vader and Palpatine is egging him on. Darth Vader then exhorts Luke to kill the Emperor so that they can rule the galaxy as father and son.

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  8. #23
    Fish of Fury Guest

    ABandit

    "someone once told you..."?

    yeah, that was yoda , dude!
    what , you're on a first name basis, hangin' out down the jedi pub, rappin with samuel l jackson?

    bloody name dropper!

    :)

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  9. #24
    joedoe Guest
    If you must know, yes it was Yoda. There we were, sitting in his little hut on Dagoba eating some brown slop, when he decided it was time for me to learn about the history of the Sith.

    Samuel L. was there too but he was too busy killing some motherfu(ker to care about what Yoda was saying.

    You're just jealous cos you didn't get an invite to the Jedi ball :D

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  10. #25
    Crimson Phoenix Guest
    Wow, Sam you're a master Jedi!!
    I never read any Star War books and haven't seen the original trilogy in a LLOOOOONNNNNGGGGG while...I wasn't aware that all these aspects had already been developped in the books...so you mean that everything from the phantom menace to the attack of the clones to the destruction of the jedis is already described? It makes the current trilogy even more useless then...
    Dang, so Anakin is going to do Amidala (she liked him a lot in episode 1 heheheh)??? So that's why Leia is a princess, I see!!!!
    Do the books answer my questions about Palpatine??
    Just wondering, but I'm amazed at your knowledge of Star War!!!

  11. #26
    Crimson Phoenix Guest
    and who is Mara Jade again? Where does this character apppear??

  12. #27
    Sam Wiley Guest
    I live with a Star Wars nut, and most of my friends are Star Wars nuts, so I get a lot of useless info coming in here. Anyway, it was Lucas who described everything that came before. "you helped my father during the clone wars," referring to Obi-wan. Etc...there's a whole bunch of stuff in the first three movies that people tend to overlook. The Emperor even tells Luke his destiny is to take Darth Vader's place at his side. But, yeah, pretty much any question you can think of is either answered in the novels or in the role playing rulebooks.

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