Iron Palm experts...

[Keith76]

Moderate/minor skin abrasions and bruises. Is it best to temporarily stop training until the injuries heal?

Thanks

[sanjuro_ronin]

Bruises are commonplace, that is what the jow is for (bruise wise) BUT cuts and abrasions you have to be careful as getting some types of Jow into your blood can be dangerous and typical IP Jow is the type that you do NOT want getting into your blood.

[Lee Chiang Po]

Moderate/minor skin abrasions and bruises. Is it best to temporarily stop training until the injuries heal?

Thanks

If you want something that works well for both bruises and abrasions, try good old Corn Husker's Lotion. If you have internal bleeding, like large bruising, best give it a few days rest.

[David Jamieson]

Moderate/minor skin abrasions and bruises. Is it best to temporarily stop training until the injuries heal?

Thanks

As stated, you don't want dit da jow getting into cuts. It could cause problems.
For bruising, that is what the dit da is for.

If in pain, take a rest. Review the material. there should not be pain in your training of IP

[mickey]

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[mooyingmantis]

Moderate/minor skin abrasions and bruises. Is it best to temporarily stop training until the injuries heal?

Thanks

Are the "abrasions" from iron palm breaking or bag training? Are the "abrasions" tears in the skin deep enough to bleed? Can you provide a picture? Do you use healing type herbs with training?

[boxerbilly]

Hi, new here. First post. If jow is potentially dangerous. Is it even needed for iron palm training?

I've read some say yes and some say now. I have James Sinclaires Wing Chun videos. And he said even brandy is usable. Something about jow is primarily used to dry the skin. Ive read others say it is for circulation. Ive read one guy say Absorbine is about the same as jow.

So, jow or no jow for Iron Palm training?

[SoCo KungFu]

Hi, new here. First post. If jow is potentially dangerous. Is it even needed for iron palm training?

I've read some say yes and some say now. I have James Sinclaires Wing Chun videos. And he said even brandy is usable. Something about jow is primarily used to dry the skin. Ive read others say it is for circulation. Ive read one guy say Absorbine is about the same as jow.

So, jow or no jow for Iron Palm training?

What do you think?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolff%27s_law

http://www.clinchem.org/content/45/8/1353.full

[sanjuro_ronin]

Jow is crucial and not just ANY Jow but jow designed for iron Palm training.
I have experimented with and without Jow and, even though this is anecdotal of course, the difference were quite noticeable:
With IP JOW:
Healing / recovery was faster
Deformation/swelling was not noticeable
Sensitivity was not compromised
Circulation increased.

[SoCo KungFu]

Jow is crucial and not just ANY Jow but jow designed for iron Palm training.
I have experimented with and without Jow and, even though this is anecdotal of course, the difference were quite noticeable:
With IP JOW:
Healing / recovery was faster
Deformation/swelling was not noticeable
Sensitivity was not compromised
Circulation increased.

Crucial may be a bit more strong of a word than I'd use. But beneficial, yes. Highly recommended, yes.

Physiologically, the effects on the body aren't unique to IP training, its just more focusing on that result. How were you parameterizing your results? Maybe a couple more here could attempt to reproduce it if interested. If I can convince about 10 of you then I'll run some stats in a couple years and see if I can't work a publication. I'll give yall co-authorship, of course

[GeneChing]

If jow is potentially dangerous. Is it even needed for iron palm training?

Martial arts practice is potentially dangerous. If you want to train, you will exposure yourself to some level of danger. Take precautions.

You can get Grandmaster Tao's 12 Herb Soak (used for Iron training) here.

[mooyingmantis]

Hi, new here. First post. If jow is potentially dangerous. Is it even needed for iron palm training?

I've read some say yes and some say now. I have James Sinclaires Wing Chun videos. And he said even brandy is usable. Something about jow is primarily used to dry the skin. Ive read others say it is for circulation. Ive read one guy say Absorbine is about the same as jow.

So, jow or no jow for Iron Palm training?

I didn't use it for decades. Then began using it and have used it for about ten years. I really don't see any difference based on my experience.

[boxerbilly]

Thank you very much fellows. Appreciated. Thanks for the links.

[Brat]

Moderate/minor skin abrasions and bruises. Is it best to temporarily stop training until the injuries heal?

Thanks

I did iron palm about 25 years ago. Still have it. I only did it on the right hand and even today all those years later my right hand is much tougher than my left. I didn't have any dit da jow back then as it was only available from a few places on each coast and it was expensive for a teenie with no job. I used rubbing alcohol instead. Worked for me with the bruising and inflamation also.

[David Jamieson]

I still maintain.

I use a mung bean filled canvas sack and basically do pretty much the same stuff as what you see here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jdbB8nHIYc