One of his students.Originally Posted by boxerbilly
The biggest caution for training ANYTHING from video is to make sure that it is used to SUPPLEMENT being taught and not REPLACE actual instruction.
GM of Hadaka Korosu
One of his students.
The biggest caution for training ANYTHING from video is to make sure that it is used to SUPPLEMENT being taught and not REPLACE actual instruction.
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
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Nice. Do you own his IP video as well? Or any of the other Green Dragon Studio videos? Or do you focus more so on shuai chiao?
GM of Hadaka Korosu
I own a few different IP videos for information purposes since I have a vast collection of videos and books about MA.
You need to remember that IP training ( any specialty gung for that fact) should be viewed as the "icing" on the cake, a finishing touch and NOT be done until a certain "mastery" of the basic is ingrained.
It can actually hinder the progress of a student id not done at the right time.
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Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
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My main back ground is boxing. Kind of hard to train myself out of it and I don't think I would want to anyway. So, at least in that respect, I do have solid grounding in understanding technique and application. I don't see any reasons why one could not include IP with that background. Swapping put open hand for fist if one wanted to.
I also have trained in TKD, Isshin Ryu and Shaolin Kempo. Highest belt level would be green. Then stuff learned with training buddies of different style. Judo and Chito Ryu and American Kenpo. Lived on both the East and West coast in my 20's.
Richard A. Tolson
Your boxing would be an excellent compliment to IP training. Your knuckles are probably really well conditioned. IP training could toughen the back and palmar surfaces of the hand.
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Thank you Richard.
Let me ask you this. Do you believe one could learn iron palm , safely and correctly through video?
the ass assassin
you can learn any kung fu exercise through books and video, but you will not be able to teach others.
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That's like saying you can go read books on strength training and diet, get all strong, but you can't teach anyone how you accomplished that. Preposterous. Iron Palm is one of the easiest things to gain self feedback on. Do your hands throb? (Yes/No); Can you break? (Yes/No); Is your breaking improving? (Yes/No)
IP is practically written for the DIY martial artist. The only thing hanging people up is superstitious bull****.
the ass assassin
you cant teach others because ur gonna get found out and embarrased FOO
if u learned from a book why should a person pay u to learn from u, they can learn from the book too
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Results matter more than anything else. Demonstrate your skill and it doesn't matter where you learned. My 2nd BJJ coach learned from a book. He also produced pro MMA fighters and amateur MMA champions. The rest is irrelevant.
Indeed they can, and should. No sense in wasting time with useless "teachers". A few dedicated sparring partners are far more useful than any sifu, unless that sifu happens to be one of those partners. There's nothing you can't learn from a book these days. The issue is getting with someone and physically working out the flaws. A coach can speed the process, but they're hardly necessary. And given the sucktitude of most kung fu teachers...better off without them.if u learned from a book why should a person pay u to learn from u, they can learn from the book too
the ass assassin
since u live in ohio i dont blame u for supporting book learning. hill billy kung fu instructors are the most crazy kind
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I did iron palm about 25 years ago. Still have it. I only did it on the right hand and even today all those years later my right hand is much tougher than my left. I didn't have any dit da jow back then as it was only available from a few places on each coast and it was expensive for a teenie with no job. I used rubbing alcohol instead. Worked for me with the bruising and inflamation also.
Itinerant practitioner
I still maintain.
I use a mung bean filled canvas sack and basically do pretty much the same stuff as what you see here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jdbB8nHIYc
Kung Fu is good for you.
Richard A. Tolson
Sorry, for the delayed response. I rarely visit here anymore.
Yes, I think the basic physical aspects of iron palm can be learned from a video or book. Rodney Morgan is one of the most skilled iron palm practitioners I have ever met. He would be a great source of information.
Bawang,
Ohio has many iron palm practitioners. Kung Fu is very prevalent in Ohio. We have Hung Gar, Choy Li Fut, Wing Chun, Shuai Jiao, Baguazhang, Bajiquan, Hsing-I, Northern Shaolin, Houquan and several styles of Tanglangquan and Taijiquan within an hour drive of my location. Most of us teaching here have been training for at least three or four decades.
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