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    Bas Rutten demonstrating a Choy Lee Fut Sow Choy technique!!!!

    Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
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    Bruh we thought you knew better
    when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better

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    Yep, that's a sow choy alright! I wonder if Bas is even aware that it's identical to the CLF punch or not.

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    I like Bas Rutten.

    That's CLF knockout shot? I mean one of their big guns? It is what possibly gives the wing chun guard trouble? I had considered swings in another thread.

    Aikijujitsu has similar ideas of striking with the forearm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxerbilly View Post
    I like Bas Rutten.

    That's CLF knockout shot? I mean one of their big guns? It is what possibly gives the wing chun guard trouble? I had considered swings in another thread.

    Aikijujitsu has similar ideas of striking with the forearm.
    Irimi nage in aikijutsu/aikido
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    That's CLF knockout shot? I mean one of their big guns? It is what possibly gives the wing chun guard trouble? I had considered swings in another thread.
    that's one of CLF's bread and butter techniques. Even though its our sow choy, he doesn't put the body mechanics into it the way we do. everybody swears they can deal with the sow choy until they get hit with a good one.

    Still, that is only ONE single use for that type of swing. We have a few more things in regarding to the usage of it.

    Don't ever under estatimate the sow choy.
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    Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
    when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
    Bruh we thought you knew better
    when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better

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    Quote Originally Posted by hskwarrior View Post
    that's one of CLF's bread and butter techniques. Even though its our sow choy, he doesn't put the body mechanics into it the way we do. everybody swears they can deal with the sow choy until they get hit with a good one.

    Still, that is only ONE single use for that type of swing. We have a few more things in regarding to the usage of it.

    Don't ever under estatimate the sow choy.

    Thanks. Our posts most have came through at around the same time. I missed it. BOMBS, get out of the way or get crushed. For me it is similar to a overhand.
    Still for myself, I worry I could land it against a guy that really understands that guard as some of those clips show. That's another way to potentially stop a shot similar. Post a jab in their face. Which seems to be a main strategy. They may choose different terms. I realize I am looking at it within a limited context. I did so purposely for myself. Not to look at every possible way to deal with it but from a boxers perspective with no gloves on. Trying to keep it stand up.

    I can see how having trained forearms to smash and potentially damage their guard would be advantageous. A similar answer I thought of was attack the hand. That poses other problems for me. Perhaps stay outside and jab that hand to death? Maybe.

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    A punch is a punch, a kick is a kick...

    I have found virtually all the same techniques in all the styles I have trained in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
    A punch is a punch, a kick is a kick...

    I have found virtually all the same techniques in all the styles I have trained in.
    I agree. It becomes what they consider main techniques that receive the attention based on their strategy. That is a nice shot Bas shows. It was the only upper body strike I could get nice bag fold on. It digs. I never have ever used anything like that on anyone. It can cause should issues.

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    It is what possibly gives the wing chun guard trouble?
    What Iron shins is to Muay Thai, Iron forearms is to Choy Lee Fut. yes we train to smash that guard
    Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
    when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
    Bruh we thought you knew better
    when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better

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    Quote Originally Posted by hskwarrior View Post
    What Iron shins is to Muay Thai, Iron forearms is to Choy Lee Fut. yes we train to smash that guard
    Yeah, Sanjuro mentioned everyone basically has the same techniques; and that's true, but not everyone develops them to the same extent or for the same uses.
    Everyone has a jab, but few systems have developed it to the extant of western boxing. Most everyone has some version of a round kick, but the Muay Thai round kick is the most feared. Many have what we call sao choi, but perhaps not utilized to the degree that you see in Southern long arm.
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    This is 100% TCMA principle. It may be used in non-TCMA also. Since I did learn it from TCMA, I have to say it's TCMA principle.
    Quote Originally Posted by YouKnowWho View Post
    We should not use "TCMA is more than combat" as excuse for not "evolving".

    You can have Kung Fu in cooking, it really has nothing to do with fighting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
    A punch is a punch, a kick is a kick...

    I have found virtually all the same techniques in all the styles I have trained in.
    Yes. This is the Praying Mantis quan chui (huen chui) referred to in this thread:

    http://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/...ok-translation

    Pretty common basic power strike.

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