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    Here's an excellent article about important and current developments within modern Theravada Buddhism.

    New York Times: "'Rebel' Female Buddhist Monks Challenge Thailand Status Quo"

    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015...-in-ochre.html
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    'It was unclear if he wore his conspicuous regalia while hitting and staying.'

    Monk accused of looting temple of $150K for blackjack addiction
    By Selim Algar
    September 15, 2015 | 12:59pm
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    Nothing disrupts Zen tranquility like a federal embezzling rap.

    A blackjack​-​addicted Buddhist monk from Louisiana was arrested at LaGuardia Airport and charged with looting his own temple of roughly $150,000 to fund weekly casino binges, The Post has learned.

    Khang Le, the top monk at the Vietnamese Buddhist Association of Lafayette, Louisiana, appeared in full religious garb Monday in Brooklyn federal court and will likely be sent back to his home state to face the federal raps.

    Investigators said that Le developed a burgeoning blackjack infatuation beginning in 2011 and began making secret visits to the L’Auberge Casino in Lake Charles.

    Unable to finance the spiraling addiction with his humble $1,000-per-month salary, Le began to make massive withdrawals from the temple’s private accounts, court papers state.

    “Le stated he started to gamble in 2011 or 2012 and would spend between $5,000 and $10,000 every two or three days at the casino playing blackjack,” ​court papers reveal of an interview with Le conducted by a federal agent in 2014. “Le admitted to having a gambling problem and admitted that he was utilizing Temple funds to gamble.”

    Le told agents during interviews last year that he always went to the casino alone and sought out quiet corners in order to obscure his shameful conduct, according to court papers.

    It was unclear if he wore his conspicuous regalia while hitting and staying.

    “Sometimes, when Le won, Le stated that he would return some of the funds back into the Temple’s bank account,” court papers state.

    Between December 2012 and the present, records showed that he withdrew $374,789 from both personal and temple accounts from ATMs at his favored gambling den or on days when he visited the casino, papers state.

    Le told agents that he was well aware that his small but dedicated flock of Vietnamese immigrants would have disapproved of his gambling.

    Never suspecting that their leader would behave unscrupulously, congregants never vetted their coffers, allowing Le to decimate the funds at will, papers state.

    With an arrest warrant in hand after a yearlong investigation, agents learned that Le was going to pass through New York on his way to Canada to buy a used car on Saturday, a source told The Post.

    Flying in from Dallas, Le was confronted at 2:26 p.m. by agents who confirmed his identity through a check of his driver’s license and placed him under arrest. He did not resist.

    Wearing flowing Buddhist robes, Le made an appearance Saturday and is scheduled for a bail application this afternoon.

    “He’s a good man,” said Le’s attorney, Donald Mayeaux, from his offices in Eunice, Louisiana. “I hope he will be able to come back here.”
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    "Wearing flowing Buddhist robes, Le made an appearance Saturday and is scheduled for a bail application this afternoon.

    “He’s a good man,” said Le’s attorney, Donald Mayeaux, from his offices in Eunice, Louisiana. “I hope he will be able to come back here.”"
    He probably is a basically good person who did a dumb thing, just like anyone can. But theft (by a monk) means automatic expulsion and one cannot reordain in this lifetime.

    Buddhist are typically forgiving however and I hope he can come back as a lay practitioner if he wants. He could get a job and help support the monks maybe.
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    Wu Zeheng gets life

    China Court Jails Religious 'Cult' Leader for Life
    World | Agence France-Presse | Updated: October 31, 2015 12:07 IST


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    SHANGHAI: A Chinese court has sentenced the leader of a religious sect labelled a cult by authorities to life in prison on several charges, according to an official statement, with three of his followers also jailed.

    A court in the southern city of Zhuhai on Friday also fined Wu Zeheng, head of the "Huazang Zongmen" sect, more than 7.0 million yuan ($1.1 million), it said. The charges included organising a cult, rape, fraud and selling harmful food products.

    Wu seduced dozens of women by telling them sex with him could give them "supernatural power", state media has said. He also operated a restaurant which claimed the food was cooked with "precious" ingredients.

    A police investigation showed Wu had amassed an illegal fortune of more than 6.9 million yuan through his activities, according to the official Xinhua news agency.

    The court also sentenced three of his followers to jail terms of one to four years, but one of those tried escaped punishment, the statement said.

    The group, which operates under multiple names, claims links to Buddhism.

    Analysts say China has tightened control over religious worship, among other areas, under the administration of President Xi Jinping, who took office in 2013.

    Authorities have targeted cults after members of one group beat a woman whom they were trying to recruit to death in a McDonald's restaurant in May last year.

    In February, authorities executed a father and daughter, who belonged to the Quannengshen group, for the murder. Another 14 members of the sect, whose name can be translated as Church of Almighty God, were jailed for up to three years in July.

    In another case, a celebrity Chinese "qigong master", Wang Lin, who claimed to conjure snakes from thin air and cure the sick, was held by police on suspicion of kidnapping and murder in July, according to media reports.

    In a bizarre twist to the case, his ex-wife and mistress offered 2.0 million yuan in bribes to a policeman investigating the matter in exchange for information to help Wang seek a lighter sentence, the official Xinhua news agency said on Friday.

    Story First Published: October 31, 2015 12:07 IST
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    The thread title has been quietly changed from "Buddhist monks behaving badly" to "Buddhist behaving badly" undercutting the point of several posts. Not a big deal, but worth noting. Even with this widening of scope, the latest article above seems to state that this isn't a recognized Buddhist organization, but a sect that "claims links to Buddhism".

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    Good catch, rett2

    I usually state when I change thread titles, but I was in a rush yesterday and there was a lot of news. Besides, I launched this thread so I figured no harm done. But in future, I'll endeavor to state thread title changes. Honestly, I didn't think anyone was watching our forum quite that carefully. Good on you!

    You have a fair point about widening the scope here, which is exactly what I intended because this didn't really seem worthy of two independent threads. But if it seems to be an issue, I'll split them later. For now, let's just watch to see how this thread progresses over time.
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    Slightly OT

    This would be more appropriate in a 'Busted Buddhists' thread, but we don't have one of those. Whether or not these monks behaved badly is a matter of perspective.

    Two Sichuan monks arrested for holding prayer ceremony for Dalai Lama – report
    11 February 2016 12:43 Hermina Wong

    Two monks have been arrested for holding a prayer ceremony for the Dalai Lama in the Garzę Tibetan Autonomous Prefecture in Sichuan, according to US-backed Radio Free Asia. The arrests come amid Chinese authorities’ efforts to suppress worship in the region.

    The two monks reportedly held the ceremony on January 25 and welcomed a Dalai Lama statue into Jueri Temple, located in Sichuan’s Luhuo county. Chinese authorities announced on January 31 that all Dalai Lama statues were “illegal publications” and ordered them to be handed over before February 2.


    Worship of Dalai Lama at Jueri Temple. Photo: RFA.

    “The authorities sent the police in to try and stop the ceremony, but they did not succeed. The atmosphere that day [January 25] was not tense, but the authorities gradually began to impose stricter regulations in the county,” a Luhuo-born, India-based monk Awangkanre told RFA.

    Awangkanre also said that the authorities have since blocked phone and internet connections, making it difficult for the public to know the status of the arrested monks.

    “It is a regular campaign held before the Spring Festival to crack down on pornography and illegal publications, which include portraits of the Dalai Lama,” Gou Yadong, director of external publicity at the publicity department of the prefecture, told the state-run Global Times on February 2.


    Photos of the two arrested monks – Baga (left) and Aojian (right). Photo: RFA.

    Lian Xiangnin, an expert at the China Tibetology Research Center in Beijing, also said that the Dalai Lama advocated for separatism, and hanging his portraits would be an insult to the Chinese, as much as hanging Saddam Hussein’s portraits would be to Americans.

    The article has since been deleted from the Global Times website.

    The two monks, Baga and Aojian, were an abbot (khenpo) and a Buddhist scholar (geshe) of Jueri Temple respectively.
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    Slightly OT

    Alas, Kuan Yin...

    MAR.10.16
    WHAT HAPPENS BEHIND THE TEMPLE STAYS BEHIND THE TEMPLE
    by Marco Ferrarese



    Right when the nearby offices call it another day, the end of Muntri Street beside the God of Mercy Kuan Yin temple turns into an open-air lounge for degenerates. Cheap red plastic chairs of made-in-China quality sprout on the street next to tattered metal tables that would look at home in a morgue. This is Antarabangsa (translated not coincidentally as ‘The International’), George Town’s most infamous watering hole, a decaying traditional shop house manned by two generations of a Chinese family responsible for selling the cheapest alcohol on the island. The boss—a bad-ass, plumpy man in his mid-thirties—waits behind the bar next to a standing fan, no shirt on, his man boobs glistening with sweat. Towers of cigarettes, small packets of nuts, dried plums, and collections of the most gut-turning Southeast Asian whiskeys are his halo. He’s the pusher of an international array of beers neatly displayed before him in a wall of refrigerators. Skol, a European beer introduced in Malaysia by Carlsberg in 2004, has the lion’s share. Three cans go for 11 ringgit, the equivalent of mere $2.62USD.

    In Malaysia, a predominantly Muslim nation where spirits are costly imports and other brands, like Singapore’s Tiger, sell for a minimum of 7 ringgit ($1.70) a can, we will never know where such cheap booze comes from. Some say it’s smuggled from nearby Thailand, others from the tax-free island of Langkawi to the north of Penang. What is certain is that you won’t find it cheaper than Antarabangsa. By 10 pm, hundreds of golden cans shimmer in the street corner’s dim lights, littering the autopsy tables as proof of each drunken group’s intoxication level. An Indonesian woman makes the rounds to collect the empties in a plastic bucket, saving them for the recycling shops that pay a few cents for aluminium.

    For years, this twisted corner of Penang Island’s World Heritage Site was shunned and feared by locals because of the populace of drunken Indians and the area’s reputation for fistfights. Slowly, however, thirsty and penniless backpackers discovered the cheap Skol cans and made Antarabangsa a truly ‘international’ evening hangout. Seeing the white faces of these foreign kwailos (‘white ghosts’) sitting among the Indians, even the Chinese were convinced that Antarabangsa couldn’t be as bad as they had been told. In a predominantly Islamic nation where ethnic identity is a marker of everything, finding Chinese, Indians, and foreigners from all parts of Asia and the West rubbing elbows over beer is quite an accomplishment. Especially when Skol beer, another international champ, is the clincher.

    The other side of the coin is that these days, Antarabangsa has become so flooded by backpackers that Lonely Planet should consider including it within its budget nightlife options. But with all the drunken locals swaying from the tables to the temple’s wall to pee—and sometimes vomit—in the drain, that’s hard to happen. Kuan Yin, however, keeps turning her merciful eye across Harmony Street towards the cleaner alleys of Little India. She also believes that what happens every night at the back of her temple is better kept a secret.
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    Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz?

    Lord Buddha, that is.

    Top Thai Buddhist monk investigated over vintage Mercedes-Benz
    Supporters of Somdet Chuang, frontrunner for the post of supreme patriarch, say tax evasion claims are politically driven


    Thai Buddhist monks on their way to the morning alms-offering ceremony. Photograph: Rungroj Yongrit/EPA

    Oliver Holmes in Bangkok
    Tuesday 29 March 2016 05.04 EDT Last modified on Tuesday 29 March 2016 07.56 EDT

    A 90-year-old monk is under investigation for tax evasion in Thailand and will be summoned by police after he refused to answer their questions about his classic Mercedes-Benz.

    The 1953-model car — in cream and worth more than $250,000 — is at the centre of a politically divisive battle over the future leadership of Thai Buddhism.

    Somdet Phra Maha Ratchamangalacharn, better known as Somdet Chuang, is the frontrunner for the post of supreme patriarch, a position that leads 300,000 monks in the most populous Buddhist-majority country.

    Paiboon Kumchaya, the justice minister, has said that Somdet could be arrested after he refused to answer questions from police who visited the temple.

    “If he doesn’t respond to the summons, we will seek an arrest warrant,” he said.

    Chuang has said the car was a gift from a follower and it is kept in a museum.

    His supporters say the allegations are politically charged. Chuang has ties to the Dhammakaya Temple, a power base for Thaksin Shinawatra, the ousted former prime minister and the ruling junta’s top foe.

    The leadership battle, which mirrors Thailand’s political divide between pro-military “yellow shirts” and Thaksin’s “red shirts”, has led to street protests.

    The prime minister, Prayuth Chan-ocha, a general who took power in the 2014 coup, has said that unless the dispute is settled he will not nominate any candidate for supreme patriarch.

    Only once the prime minister nominates a candidate to the king can the post be approved.

    Chuang’s supporters took to the streets last month to protest against what they believe is state interference in religious affairs.

    The army responded by trying to disperse the demonstrators, shaven-head monks in saffron robes, but it led to scuffles that shocked many Thais.

    “We will not move until the state stops interfering in religious affairs,” said Methi Thammacharn, secretary-general of the Buddhism Protection Centre.

    Images on television showed about 1,000 monks clashing with troops in uniform. One video showed a monk putting a soldier in a headlock.

    “Don’t touch monks!” shouted onlookers.

    This month, police detained a monk close to Chuang for “attitude adjustment”, a detention programme which coup leaders have used to haul in hundreds of dissenters, politicians and journalists for interrogation.

    The unprecedented move increased tensions over the Buddhist leadership contest, already fraught as ailing King Bhumibol Adulyadej, 88, has traditionally been involved in Buddhist ceremonies but his ill health has created a power vacuum.

    There is countrywide anxiety over the royal succession with both the yellow and red shirts seeking to solidify their position in the country’s future.

    Political leaders will want a supreme patriarch, an influential figure, to be sympathetic to their cause.

    The country’s last supreme patriarch, Somdet Phra Nyanasamvara, died in 2013 aged 100.
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    This is a few months old....

    ....but oh so worthy of posting here. Plus it's not from Thailand.

    That's not very zen! Buddhist monk is jailed for 162-car tyre-slashing rampage after he accidentally stepped on an insect

    Julian Glew, 45, who lives in a tent in the woodlands, went on the rampage
    The Buddhist monk became angry when he accidentally killed an insect
    Has now been jailed for 11 weeks after going on the run for three months
    Judge said his actions were 'not those of a person who lives for a peaceful co-existence'

    By THOMAS BURROWS FOR MAILONLINE
    PUBLISHED: 03:51 EST, 21 January 2016 | UPDATED: 06:31 EST, 21 January 2016


    Julian Glew, 45, who lives in a tent in the woodlands, went on the rampage because of his religious beliefs

    A Buddhist monk slashed the wheels of 162 cars after he became angry when he accidentally squashed an insect.
    Julian Glew, 45, who lives in a tent in the woodlands, went on the three-day barefoot rampage because of his religious beliefs.
    He has now been jailed for 11 weeks after the judge said his actions were 'not those of a person who lives for a peaceful co-existence.'
    Glew became frustrated and upset after inadvertently squashing the insect in September last year.
    The 45-year-old, who has lived in the woods for almost 20 years, was arrested several days later following a CCTV appeal by Humberside Police.
    At court, he pleaded guilty to three counts of criminal damage. He was originally due to be sentenced on October 14, but failed to show up in court.
    Instead, he went on the run for three months and was finally tracked down by officers in West Yorkshire earlier this month.
    Joanne Markham, for the mitigation, told Beverley Magistrates' Court that Glew had suffered some mental health issues in the past.
    He was described as being 'detached from society' and having previously lived in a Buddhist monastery.
    She said accommodation had been found for him at a hostel in Princes Avenue, west Hull, following his first court appearance, but it 'didn't work because of how he was used to living'.
    Miss Markham added: 'He has indicated that he feels he should go to prison for what he has done. He has no previous incidents on his record and he lives without means, not claiming any benefits.'
    Sentencing him to 11 weeks in prison, Judge Fred Rutherford said: 'I have noted the facts of this case, but I am still left here with someone who says he did not want to hurt anyone but went out of his way to affect 162 people by causing them massive financial inconvenience.
    'He targeted vehicles randomly and slashed the tyres. That is not the actions of a person who lives for a peaceful co-existence.'
    Most of the tyres were not obviously wrecked, but the irreparable damage was discovered when they were inflated and the pin-***** was found.
    CCTV shows Buddhist monk Julian Glew in Pocklington driveway


    The barefoot 'Pocklington *****er' walks away after slashing a tyre on one of the 162 vehicles he targeted


    Glew, who lives in the woodlands, walks away after puncturing a tyre on a parked car in Pocklington


    Jailing Glew at Beverley Magistrates' Court, District Judge Fred Rutherford expressed incredulity at his claims not to want to harm anybody 'but nevertheless went out of his way to affect at least 162 people'

    MECHANIC WAS INUNDATED WITH JOBS BUT MOST TYRES WERE BEYOND REPAIR
    Motor mechanic John Galley was inundated with jobs following the slashing spree, but said many of the tyres could not be repaired.
    In an interview with ITV, he said: 'Most weren't obviously damaged, but were deflated and flat.
    'You had to inflate them to find the damage that was usually a pin-*****, but it was damaged in such a way that the tyre wouldn't repair.
    'There was only certain types of repair that you can conduct on the tyre and generally speaking these were sidewall damage that meant it was a new tyre.'
    Inspector Joanne York, of Humberside Police, welcomed the sentence.
    She said: 'Sentencing Julian Glew to 11 weeks in custody is good news for the residents of Pocklington and justice has been seen to be done.
    'Vehicles were damaged over two nights in Pocklington in September 2015 which caused widespread upset and concern to the residents of Pocklington at the time. The incidents caused great inconvenience and financial loss to all those victims.
    'Following his initial arrest in September he was bailed to appear in court but failed to attend and spent several weeks avoiding arrest. Mr Glew had left the Pocklington area after he failed to appear at court.
    'I am very grateful to the people of Pocklington for their assistance and their support while we have carried out our investigations.'
    Detective Sergeant John Burrell of Humberside Police said the case had been unprecedented in the 'pleasant and peaceful' town and had caused upset and financial loss to many.
    He described Glew's excuse as 'drivel', adding: 'His is not a particularly coherent theological view and I don't think adherents of Buddhism would share the view that it was OK to inconvenience hundreds of people on account of an accident.'
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    There is no evidence in the above article to support the claim that he is a Buddhist monk. And a great deal suggests he isn't. Methinks the tabloids are telling fibs to juice up their headlines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rett2 View Post
    There is no evidence in the above article to support the claim that he is a Buddhist monk. And a great deal suggests he isn't. Methinks the tabloids are telling fibs to juice up their headlines.
    really? do you think so?
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    According to the article the person was upset about having accidently killed an insect.

    That is not actually any kind of breach of ethics in Buddhism, even for monastics. Intention is key. Buddhists monks do try very hard not to hurt insects, but accept that accidents will happen.

    Also, monastics have to live in a kind of parish, and meet up to recite the precepts regularly and confess mistakes. Even if they are hermits, they should have this kind of contact with their fellows. I believe that stepping on an insect by mistake doesn't even need to be confessed to another monk. (Please correct me if my memory is playing tricks on me). So if this person was trained in the rules and living as a monk in an extended community, he would not have needed to do more than to remind himself to be more careful in the future. And if he was unsure, all he would need to do is ask a fellow monk for advice.

    I believe that Jainism is stricter here, and at least in some branches Jain monastics go to great lengths not to injure insects even unintentially.
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    Ningguo brawl

    Watch: Chinese Monks in Violent Brawl Over Temple Work
    By Juliet Song, Epoch Times | April 27, 2016Last Updated: April 27, 2016 3:25 pm

    A video showing Chinese Buddhist monks fighting each other at their temple was posted to Chinese social media, breaking with the serene and lofty perception conventionally associated with the ascetic cultivators.



    The incident happened on April 24 at the Ningguo Temple in eastern China. In the video, three monks dressed in saffron-colored robes can be seen hitting and grappling each other, while tourists try to pull them apart. One of the bonzes carries a cell phone.

    Peng Pai, a state-run social news outlet based in Shanghai, reported that the confrontation arose when three monks at the temple, all of middle rank, took their disagreements about temple administration to the physical level.

    The three monks involved have been expelled.

    “By fighting, the three monks disregarded the Six Dharmas of Harmony,” the temple abbot told Peng Pai. “They have set a bad example for society.”
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    expelled

    Three monks expelled after video of them tussling in the temple goes viral



    Three Buddhist monks were dismissed from a temple in Yangzhou after a video went viral earlier this week, revealing to the world that all monks do not in fact know kung fu.
    In the video, the monks are seen fighting with less than expert timing in a 15-second-long scuffle, featuring a lot of what appears to be hair-pulling. Others monks are seen trying to break up the fight while their buddies help by filming it with their smartphones.
    The tall monk seems to get the worst of the ordeal, getting bashed in the head a number of times, even with a smartphone, but by the end of the video seems well enough to at least check on his own smartphone.
    Yesterday, the abbot of the temple revealed via WeChat that the three monks involved in the fracas had been expelled, never to return, sent to wander along in the wilderness, waiting for their chance at redemption, or at least that's how it seem to work in the movies.
    ECNS reports that the monks were all mid-level managers at Ningguo Temple in Yangzhou and the fight was over some trivial management issue between rivals that had personal grudges against each other simmering for some time. Ah, the complicated world of temple politics.
    Video of the fight went viral on Chinese social media, with many netizens believing it was representative of larger problems in Chinese Buddhism.
    "Many monks these days are not sincere in their beliefs, eventually their true colors come out," commented one netizen.
    "They have embarrassed all monks, especially with their poor fighting skills," wrote one Weibo user.
    "I am not familiar with what type of kung fu this temple teaches," joked another.

    By Alex Linder in News on Apr 28, 2016 11:00 PM
    Not all Buddhists monks know Kung Fu...in fact, it's only a small percentage. Very small.
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