Thoughts on this chi sau?

[slick69]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHJR4uZ1kzg

[stonecrusher69]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHJR4uZ1kzg

I have seen this awhile ago. IMO GM Kwok is not on his A game. He seems either not really interested and bit annoyed, its not a good example of what I have seen before. Noticed how he is always grabbing his wrist trying to control his opponent which was ineffective. Both of then where IMO cheating by not staying bridged. Just taking cheap shots.

[YouKnowWho]

he is always grabbing his wrist trying to control his opponent which was ineffective. Both of then where IMO cheating by not staying bridged. Just taking cheap shots.

That's exactly the part that I like about his clip. He is one of very few WC guys that seems to understand how to take advantage on the "wrist grip". The "wrist grabbing" is the door that let you to step from "bridging" into "clinching". Even if you may try to stay away from clinching and you will never grab on your opponent's wrist, you still have to be able to deal with your opponent who grabs on your wrist. If you don't train in your sticky hand, where will you train?

IMO, the reason that he can take cheap shots on his opponent because his wrist grabbing can disable his opponent's mobility temporary and put his opponent in defense mode. In real fight, you want to be able to

- put your opponent in defense mode, and
- take as many cheap shots as you can.

[LFJ]

Problem is, he's not a clinch artist and grabs because he's scared, uncomfortable, and not in control. Untrained people will often try this tactic in fighting when overwhelmed by the chaos, but since they aren't doing it because they know what they're doing, they end up not grabbing anything successfully or not knowing what to do from there anyway and eat punches or get taken down while reaching out to grab something.

Fights don't start from pre- double-arm contact. If we square off and my opponent wants to grab both of my wrists like that, I'll have to be a mummy and stick my arms out for him, otherwise it ain't happening, unless I just suck that bad...

[guy b.]

The thing about wing chun is that the vast majority of it including 99.9999% of what is on youtube is nonsense. This example is a case in point and both guys are obviously wasting their time with the system. Mostly wing chun is an extremely impractical method of fighting that encourages very dangerous habits.

[HybridWarrior]

I agree with stonecrusher... kwok just taking cheap shots. No skill at all. Other guy at least has some vague idea of forward pressure; when kwok does his cheap shots the other guys arms/hands shoot forward because kwok doesn't understand even the basic idea of how to do the things he was trying. Ridiculous.
as for kwok's awesome wrist grabbing skill...he learned that from his two sifu's (yip chun and yip ching) both of whom are wrist grabbers when the sh1t isn't going there way. Sad sad sad...

[slick69]

Both of then where IMO cheating by not staying bridged. Just taking cheap shots.

What a dumb comment, cheating?

[slick69]

I kinda respect both for putting this out there. I think where you train with someone from diff organization it is a bit awkward. Kwok is uncomfortable and other guy is not really attacking. However I learn much from clip.