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    Shaolin in the Ring and Cage

    I thought we had a thread related to this already, but perhaps not. If anyone finds one, I can merge it in.

    I'm making a list here of sport fighters that credit some Shaolin training in their resume. Please add to this if I've missed anyone.

    Shaolin-fighter-Yi-Long

    UFC-Fighter-Roy-Big-Country-Nelson-Lohan-Shaolin

    Patrick-Barry

    UFC-s-Dan-Hardy-Shaolin-Temple-trained!


    Justin Morton (top) (Facebook/Tenkaichi Fight)
    Out of Obscurity: EFC 41, Aspera FC 22 and Tenkaichi Fight
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    July 9, 2015

    Every week, Combat Press takes a look at three regional, developmental or international cards from the upcoming weekend, previewing from each a single fight to which people should pay close attention. We will also list other significant bouts from the card, as well as information on how to follow each promotion and watch the events.

    Let’s discover those prospects that fight in the obscurity of the regional, developmental and international circuits, waiting for their shot at the bright lights and big stage of the UFC, and those veterans looking for one more chance at stardom. It all begins here, in the small convention centers and high school gymnasiums. It all begins with promotions such as these…
    Extreme Fighting Championship 41
    Carnival City in Johannesburg, South Africa
    Event Date: July 11
    Website: efcworldwide.com
    Watch Event: Live main card on television networks SuperSport World of Champions (Africa), Fight Sports (Europe and Asia) and ESPN Player (Europe).
    Twitter: @EFCworldwide

    Spotlight Fight:
    Demarte Pena (10-0) vs. Cedric Doyle (7-1-1)

    If there’s one fighter who has truly stood out among the Extreme Fighting Championship roster, it’s Demarte Pena. Pena, who once reigned as the EFC Africa featherweight champion, shifted his sights to the bantamweight division in 2014 and quickly claimed the EFC crown for the weight class. Now, at EFC 41, he will put his title on the line against challenger Cedric Doyle.

    Pena vacated his EFC Africa featherweight crown to challenge Nkazimulo Zulu for the bantamweight title. After five hard-fought rounds, Pena emerged with the belt. The 25-year-old fights out of Fight Fit Militia and made his pro debut in 2011. He captured the EFC Africa featherweight title in just his third fight and went on to make five successful title defenses before making the move to 135 pounds. Pena has seen the scorecards six times, while only picking up two TKO victories and two submission wins. He’s seen the championship rounds in an astounding seven of his 10 pro fights. His most recent outing ended in a successful defense of his bantamweight title with a fourth-round TKO finish of Francois Groenewald. Pena is a SASCA grappling champion and an undefeated amateur Muay Thai competitor through six contests, but he also has a background in Shaolin Kung Fu, karate and judo.

    Doyle’s record varies depending on the source — Sherdog has him at 4-1, EFC lists him at 7-2 and Tapology indicates that he’s 7-1-1. According to Tapology’s listing, Doyle has four submission victories and two stoppages via strikes. Regardless of which accounting is referenced, one thing remains a constant: Doyle is 4-1 inside the EFC’s Hex. “The Dominator” didn’t get an easy task for his EFC debut, in which he met the aforementioned Zulu. Zulu submitted Doyle in the second round and continued his march toward an eventual title shot and championship reign. Doyle, meanwhile, found his rhythm in his next outing. He scored three finishes — one submission and two TKOs — before edging Matthew Buirski on the scorecards in his most recent fight. Doyle’s fighting background of impromptu boxing matches with his brother and skirmishes on the beach eventually led to an MMA career.

    Doyle has put together a solid resume, but Pena has established himself as the elite man atop the EFC roster. Pena can finish opponents via strikes or submissions, but he tends to be more of a grinder who is content to let the judges determine the outcome. It’s worked to Pena’s favor thus far. Doyle has a better finishing rate, but he wasn’t as effective against his two most notable opponents, Zulu and Buirski. Pena is another big step up in competition for Doyle, and Doyle may not be up for the task.

    Pena has been an extremely effective fighter throughout his EFC career. Doyle’s a strong challenger and he won’t let Pena run away with the victory, but he’s going to have a tough time dethroning the bantamweight kingpin. Pena will draw this contest into the championship rounds, and that’s where Doyle will falter. This one has a decent chance of making it to the scorecards, but Pena could end it with a submission in the fourth or fifth round.

    Other key bouts: Michiel Opperman (11-9) vs. Liam Cleland (4-2) for the middleweight title, Lyle Karam (2-0) vs. Mark Hulme (2-1), Tumisang Madiba (3-1) vs. Wesley Hawkey (11-6), Mthobisi Buthelezi (2-0) vs. Koba Iakobidze (1-3)
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    ttt 4 2016!

    Conor McGregor equates his movement method to Shaolin:

    Conor McGregor's movement method: the missing link in MMA?
    The Irishman fights Nate Diaz on Saturday – and McGregor claims his fine recent form comes from a training regimen that looks like something out of Karate Kid


    Conor McGregor has the chance to be the first MMA fighter to hold two belts simultaneously. Photograph: Kevork Djansezian/Getty Images
    Sam Blum
    Thursday 3 March 2016 06.00 EST Last modified on Thursday 3 March 2016 11.05 EST

    Conor McGregor fits the mold of the flashy fighter. While some of his counterparts attend media events wearing an understated t-shirt and baseball cap, McGregor is most comfortable delivering post-fight invectives in a designer suit. He sits at indoor press conferences behind a veneer of ****iness and thick sunglasses, bolstered by a professional MMA record of 19-2.

    Before his featherweight title fight against Jose Aldo last December, McGregor predicted he’d make short work of his opponent, a champion of 10 years, and guaranteed the world an explosive victory by way of first-round knockout.

    That knockout came in 13 seconds.

    McGregor’s surge to dominance could see him potentially lay claim to both the featherweight and lightweight UFC titles. The Irishman makes his welterweight debut against Nate Diaz this Saturday at UFC 196. The Diaz matchup is a consolation bout, concocted in haste after current lightweight champion Rafael Dos Anjos was injured in training. If McGregor wins Saturday, he’ll eventually be given the chance to hold two belts simultaneously – a first in UFC history.

    Much has been said about McGregor’s prowess in the cage, but the UFC featherweight champion claims his competitive edge isn’t just the product of freak talent or gruelling hours spent walloping a heavy bag. Rather, McGregor attributes much of his recent form to movement training – a regimen that champions free-flowing bodily rhythm and a merging of the mental and physical aspects of fighting.

    Movement training prizes a combination of mindfulness, timing and precision drills that are seemingly arbitrary – like catching wooden sticks or marauding on all-fours like a panther – and seeks to optimize one’s spacial awareness while in a fight. The training is said to help fighters navigate the rigors of combat with a sixth sense – meant distinctly for hyper-alertness – and if seized on properly, can endow an air of supreme of calm.

    McGregor now views his craft in a different light, and he has even denied he is a fighter on more than one occasion: the Irishman is now, in his own words, “a master of movement.”

    Although movement training is derided by some MMA purists as a trend that will eventually fizzle, its core tenets – fluidity, cerebral awareness and precision – have been ingrained in the martial artist’s repertoire for centuries.

    Movement training is “something that’s always existed,” says Erwan Le Corre, a prominent instructor and movement coach to former UFC welterweight champion Carlos Condit.

    “You look at the Shaolin monks, you look at the samurai, the warriors of ancient Greece – Spartans and stuff like that – they weren’t just swinging swords or throwing spears. They were also climbing stuff, they were learning stuff, jumping and doing all these movements geared towards becoming better fighters.”

    If Le Corre’s description of ancient warriors jumping and climbing walls seems incongruous with traditional combat training, the regimen appears even funkier in present day. Video of McGregor training before his fight with Aldo appeared online last year. It shows a montage of the fighter performing drills – presumably cobbled together in a random sequence – that might seem culled from the B-reel of a Bruce Lee movie.



    Under the direction of his movement coach, Ido Portal, McGregor assumes a squat position, and catches sticks as they slowly fall to the training mat. He dodges Portal’s advances with handstands, crawls on the mat like a sauntering bear, and balances a stick on his feet while lying on his back. These maneuvers may seem disjointed and experimental, but they’re deliberate, and have helped broaden McGregor’s sense of clarity amid the unceasing chaos of a UFC title fight.

    “I’ve always been fascinated by movement, and I’ve always looked at people who can move in unusual ways. I don’t just see them as people who have control of their bodies and control of their frame, but control of their mind,” McGregor said in December.

    Movement training and mind-control has subsumed much of McGregor’s devastating approach, but Portal notes that the idea isn’t a sensation or revolution, but merely a study in “perspective.”

    Portal – an Israeli martial artist and movement specialist with a niche group of devotees around the world – says the teachings offer “governing rules, laws and principles of everything you can do with the human body”. They can be applied to any physical endeavor, whether it’s “fighting, dance, somatics, or sports”.

    For McGregor, Portal has been tailoring a specific regime to optimize the fighter’s abilities and home in on his deficiencies. “We’ve been focusing a lot on footwork, on movement in space,” he says.

    Portal thinks some fighters lack a certain “quality of movements”. He helps McGregor tackle certain issues that may arise in the crux of combat, providing guidance on when to use “peripheral vision versus focused vision,” and helping him “have more efficient movements and more quality patterns”. Portal says of his training with McGregor: “We’re using gymnastics rings, we’re using a lot of very difficult quadrupedal movements to create that strength and durability.”

    It’s unorthodox, but Portal claims this kind of work “allows you to see possibilities that the average fighters don’t get to see. It touches a lot upon mindset, mental control and embodying the moment and embodying the possibilities inside the moment.”

    If there’s one payoff from McGregor’s commitment to movement training, it might have come in the form of mental calm. “It’s about entering the contest with your body supple and free,” he said in December, after deftly overpowering Aldo in a matter of seconds.

    McGregor said that his work with Portal “re-centers the mind,” and makes him feel “in control and free,” ahead of high-pressure fights.

    Because of this, McGregor says that when the bell sounds, “I see these shots, and I see these sequences and I don’t shy away from them.”

    Against Diaz, McGregor will be on the hunt for all of the sequences and hidden space that allowed him to devour Aldo, not to mention the glory it afforded him afterwards.
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    Conor McGregor has become my favorite MMA fighter. I like the fact that he keeps an open mind to many possibilities. There is also footage (but not very much, nor as good video, on YouTube) where he's extinguishing candles with punches and kicks. And unlike MANY fighters and MAists nowadays, he's very capable of good, sharp snap roundhouse kicks, which seems to be becoming a lost art. Conor is not afraid to play around with and apply concepts that differ from the norm. And oftentimes the spirit of play is a very good thing.

    This Sam Blum guy seems rather dismissive of it all, equating Conor's unorthodox drills to "the B-reel of a Bruce Lee movie." I would have thought that "Mixed Martial Arts" should be open to all possibilities in training that could help a fighter. Conor's record speaks for itself. I for one find it refreshing to see a successful fighter who is open to thinking outside of the box; and in his case, sometimes way outside the box.
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    looks like he scrambled movement drills from bjj and charge people money to learn it, very wing chun of him

    his success has less to do with extended crab walking than to his drug stack
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    And messing around with things that don't help your figjt game gets you knocked out, see Anderson Silva, or choked out...see connor this weekend

    If he had spent less time working shoalin like drills and more time his mount defence and lead hook defence he might have done better
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    He got rocked, he played it off and tried not to show it, but he ate a solid punch and his footwork went from beautiful to flatfooted walking...kept getting caught from there, that terrible shot was in desperation, he just gave up.
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    This is 100% TCMA principle. It may be used in non-TCMA also. Since I did learn it from TCMA, I have to say it's TCMA principle.
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    We should not use "TCMA is more than combat" as excuse for not "evolving".

    You can have Kung Fu in cooking, it really has nothing to do with fighting!

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    Thanks Djuan

    Time to give Xie Wei 'The Hunter' his own indie thread independant from Shaolin in the Ring and Cage

    One Championship has a nice profile on him on their facebook page.

    Unfortunately, Xie lost to McLaren by a first round submission.

    MIXED MARTIAL ARTS
    Reece McLaren Survives Big Knockdown, Submits Xie Wei In First Round
    Christian Jacinto Jun 3, 2022

    Reece “Lightning” McLaren might be proud of his improved striking under the tutelage of Muay Thai legend John Wayne Parr, but the Australian quickly reminded everyone that he’s still most dangerous on the ground.

    The #5-ranked flyweight contender brushed off an early scare before mounting a comeback and submitting “The Hunter” Xie Wei in their MMA bout at ONE 158: Tawanchai vs. Larsen on Friday, 3 June.

    The finish came at the 3:42 mark of round one, as the former World Title challenger locked in a rear-naked choke that forced the Chinese star to tap and snapped his three-fight winning streak.

    However, the contest did not begin ideally for McLaren.

    The 30-year-old looked to showcase his more refined striking against the dangerous Xie, as he was aggressive with his boxing while actively looking for head kicks.

    That strategy quickly backfired, though, as the Chinese knockout artist flattened McLaren with a booming overhand right.

    Xie tried to pounce, but despite hitting the canvas, “Lightning” was quick to recover.

    The Australian immediately regained his feet and clinched up with his opponent before landing a beautiful double-leg takedown moments later.

    And once the fight hit the ground, it was all McLaren. He quickly got the mount and then took “The Hunter’s” back when he tried to explode out of that precarious position.


    Xie tried to fight it off by standing up, but McLaren was persistent and continued to look for the choke. He was rewarded just seconds later, as the Chinese athlete fell back to the ground and had no choice but to tap.

    The win was “Lightning’s” third in his last four bouts, and he looked to the past when questioned about his future, asking for a chance at redemption against #4 contender and Team Lakay standout Danny “The King” Kingad.

    “The August card looks amazing. I’m gonna look to the mountains for my next opponent,” McLaren said. “I think I deserve a rematch with Mr. Danny himself.”

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    Shaolin Guy Challenges MMA To Boxing Match HILARITY ENSUES

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