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    Newly designed Yik Kam Wing Chun by Hendrik Santo

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    Stephen Choe
    This video shows the Yik Kam Wing Chun Siu Nim Tao by Hendrik Santo. Hendrik Santo is the guy in the video. Now he is much more thinner. I have asked other Choe Hung Choy's students and his own son. They said this is not the wing chun that taught by Choe Hung Choy. Hendrik Santo has created it by himself. He is lying.

    16 July at 23:42 · Edited · Like · 3

    Wah Chan
    This Unfaithful Student Of Sifu Choe Hung Choy Has Changed His Sifu's Sil Lim Tao Form ! The Form Is Supposed To Be In Forward Stance ( Gung Bo) & Say Peng Ma ( Horse Stance). He Changed All The Techniques And Stances ! Oh My God ! And You Claim Yourself To Be The Internal Student Of Sifu Choe ! I Trained With Sifu Choe ( Choy Sook) In The 60's. That's Why I Know ! Come To Think Of It , You Should Call Me Si-Heng ! Never Mind . I Have Nothing To Do With This School Or Style Anyway . Just Want To Say What I Know.17 July at 03:38 · Like · 3


    Ben Shue
    Thank you Wah Chan, you confirm my suspicion.
    Like that you and I also can invent our own SLT LOL.

    17 July at 03:58 · Like · 1

    Wayne Yung http://www.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php...

    Hendrick and Company tgreads all here. - Page 33

    Since, right now, this is the oldest and thus first page of...


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    Stephen Choe
    I have talked to another choe hung choy's disciple ah chai who taught bc wc in Penang for sometimes. He told me that choe hung choy taught snt with gong bou and say peng ma with mixture of southern shaolin and choy li fut techniques inside. Hendrik Santo learned this version. Actually cho yin on taught cho hung choy the version which is with yee ji kim yeung ma and tighter hands. Then cho yin on brought choe hung choy back to China to marry a local girl there. When CHC was in China, he saw the big stance and much more Choy li fut and shaolin type of hands version of Choe family there. He liked this and he felt that this is more suitable for his big body size. Then he came back Penang and modified the original SNT that taught by his sifu choe yin on. That is why many of his students learned this version including Hendrik Santo. According to Ah Chai, CHC did pass down the original set of SNT which using small stance that he learned from cho yin on to some disciples in the late years.17 July at 21:06 · Edited · Like · 2

    Stephen Choe
    Hendrik Santo only learned the modified SNT with say peng ma. The snt in his video is purely his own version.

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    Ben Shue
    That's what happen when you 'mou liew' and want to be relevant in the WC world.

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    Kinda like the Yang Luchan vehicle of transmission, if a practitioner shows publicly what was once private, it is introduced into the public domain. Happens all the time.

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    Yik Kam WC Style is already going global: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6ITzslgFOY

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guardian1000 View Post
    Wah Chan
    This Unfaithful Student Of Sifu Choe Hung Choy Has Changed His Sifu's Sil Lim Tao Form ! The Form Is Supposed To Be In Forward Stance ( Gung Bo) & Say Peng Ma ( Horse Stance). He Changed All The Techniques And Stances ! Oh My God ! And You Claim Yourself To Be The Internal Student Of Sifu Choe ! I Trained With Sifu Choe ( Choy Sook) In The 60's. That's Why I Know ! Come To Think Of It , You Should Call Me Si-Heng ! Never Mind . I Have Nothing To Do With This School Or Style Anyway . Just Want To Say What I Know.


    Stephen Choe
    I have talked to another choe hung choy's disciple ah chai who taught bc wc in Penang for sometimes. He told me that choe hung choy taught snt with gong bou and say peng ma with mixture of southern shaolin and choy li fut techniques inside. Hendrik Santo learned this version. Actually cho yin on taught cho hung choy the version which is with yee ji kim yeung ma and tighter hands. Then cho yin on brought choe hung choy back to China to marry a local girl there. When CHC was in China, he saw the big stance and much more Choy li fut and shaolin type of hands version of Choe family there. He liked this and he felt that this is more suitable for his big body size. Then he came back Penang and modified the original SNT that taught by his sifu choe yin on. That is why many of his students learned this version including Hendrik Santo. According to Ah Chai, CHC did pass down the original set of SNT which using small stance that he learned from cho yin on to some disciples in the late years.

    Stephen Choe
    Hendrik Santo only learned the modified SNT with say peng ma. The snt in his video is purely his own version.
    GM Cho hung Choi taught both a public and a private version of wing chun, the private version was reserved for the Cho Family blood line. Since Hendrik was treated like a son by GM Cho Hung Choi, he was fortunate to learn the private version reserved for the Cho Family blood line.

    Hendrik or who ever doesn't matter.

    whoever practice according to the Yik Kam SLT kuit and be able to attain it. Got the transmission. that simple. He got the transmission according to the Yik Kam SLT Kuit, and everything he attained can be traced back directly to the kuit.

    What has passed to Hendrik is written in GM Cho hung Choy letters to Hendrik . Anyone knows better than GM Cho hung choy on Gm Cho hung choy transmission and what he taught Hendrik ?

    Not to mention after thirty years from passing of Gm Cho hung choy , how much Hendrik has progress ?
    Last edited by kung fu fighter; 07-20-2015 at 02:05 PM.

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    Wah Chan was never an indoor student of GM Cho Hung Choi, therefore he only learnt the public version Form which is Supposed To Be In Forward Stance ( Gung Bo) & Say Peng Ma ( Horse Stance) with mixture of southern shaolin and choy li fut techniques inside. He has no grounds to speak about the inner door Yik Kam wck art that was reserved for the cho blood line.

    Stephen Choe is a chu ka practioner and has no idea about Yik Kam's wck art.

    It is now open to public. Anyone can go find out what Gm CHC says in his own hand writing. And go a head investigate and compare with GM CHC hand writing to see if this is Gm CHC hand writing. This is the letter he wrote to Hendrik in the early 80's
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    This letter is from Hendrik's Simo after GM Cho hung choy passed away. See how Hendrik was viewed by Gm Cho hung choy close family.
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    The question can be asked is,

    what is the agenda behind post all the baseless speculation ? What do you guys get from doing this?
    Last edited by kung fu fighter; 07-20-2015 at 01:26 AM.

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