OMG! WC fighter got knocked out!

[Zombie King]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxQfVFPsVCw

[LFJ]

Hahaha! Tiiimberrr!

Keep your hands away from kicks!

But to his credit, he got up quick. He was not knocked out, just knocked down.

[anerlich]

I didn't see a knockout. He might have got an eight count for the knockdown in another arena.

Obviously, his exclusive training with gloves led to his downfall.

[guy b.]

Obviously, his exclusive training with gloves led to his downfall.

I think it's just that he's not very good

[T.D.O]

Moving back was his down fall, especially in a straight line

[boxerbilly]

Moving back was his down fall, especially in a straight line

I wonder how many WC guys actually practice that pivot footwork you guys have? I don't mean just the set . Maybe start by having a guy palm your chest and start pushing you backwards and build from there ?

Also, from everything I have seen workable wing chun don't back up. So he should be the aggressor going down the middle, regardless if the middle is the guys side or back. Some one should send him links to the WC fight vids I posted.

[boxerbilly]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--wgG_TsHIQ

I am not even going to pretend I know anything about WC beyond what I can see related to my experiences. But that's the move. He is obviously showing the basics. Okay, you may not be able to hold ground. so you may have to step to the side to get of the line to make that pivot work against a rush attack. Step- pivot. Id say stepping forward is best but you may not have time.

Again, barring all that fancy crap. You do the crashing in and own the middle. Make him defensive. Back peddling sucks unless you are Ali. You get nothing on your shots and you are so easily over run and cant get your feet under you if that happens. Then BOOM and you go down.

[boxerbilly]

Okay, instead of Jesse pivoting he pivots his opponent. Same difference. You end up in similar position to your opponent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C1l...ature=youtu.be

[mickey]

Greetings,

I saw ABC, Attack By Combination.

mickey

[MarathonTmatt]

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Okay, you may not be able to hold ground. so you may have to step to the side to get of the line to make that pivot work against a rush attack. Step- pivot. Id say stepping forward is best but you may not have time.

When analyzing the video this is exactly what I was thinking- step-pivot/ simultaneous hammer fist to face (imo this would have worked if the guy in white would have used it instead of retreating backwards). as you also said billy stepping back like he did is a bad move- the guy did not have to be totally overwhelmed the way he did. the guy in black actually reminded me of a classmate i used to spar with. sometimes he got me, other times i would side step and he would just miss me allowing me to slip in some taps his way or sometimes even a throw or a takedown (which is harder to do than to punch.)

Anyway I am sure if there were video clips available of me sparring there would be 1,000 things people could pick apart or say "i should have done this..." just sharing my 2 cents after watching the video.

[MarathonTmatt]

Greetings,

I saw ABC, Attack By Combination.

mickey

Exactly why the guy in the black shirt was so successful. the guy in the white was unable to defend/ disrupt/ destroy. guy in the black was the better fighter of the two!

[MarathonTmatt]

it also looks like the guy in the white was putting too much emphasis on his "magical kung fu stance" so to speak instead of sticking/ moving around like most fighters- this seems to be a factor of why he got overwhelmed and kept retreating.

[YouKnowWho]

The guy in white was waiting. What was he waiting for? IMO, if you don't have the skill to stop an incoming attacker, you should not fight defensively.

[hskwarrior]

The guy in black was a choy lee fut guy

[boxerbilly]

The guy in black was a choy lee fut guy

Hence a major advantage. CLF guys often train full contact.