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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    I saw Doctor Strange and have to say, IMO it's the best superhero movie I've ever seen. 'Nuff said.
    I must say that I agree.
    It was just really, really well done.
    From the Special effects to the writing to the acting.

    There was no weakness.

    The only critique I have is that there was a bit too much "building warping" at times, but that's just me nitpicking.
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    He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !

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    Back to whitewashing...

    Tilda Swinton Releases Email Exchange With Margaret Cho About Whitewashing In ‘Doctor Strange’
    Two actresses we love are having a tough conversation.
    12/17/2016 12:53 pm ET | Updated 1 day ago
    Cole Delbyck Entertainment Writer, The Huffington Post


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    Tilda Swinton as The Ancient One in “Doctor Strange.”

    Everyone in Hollywood has apparently learned a lesson from the Taylor Swift/Kim Kardashian Snapchat debacle of 2016: always keep your receipts.

    On Wednesday, comedian Margaret Cho revealed that Tilda Swinton reached out over email to discuss the controversy surrounding her casting as the Ancient One in “Doctor Strange,” a character who is a Tibetan man in comic book canon. Swinton’s casting was immediately met with resistance from the Asian and Asian-American community, which has historically been erased and stereotyped on screen due to Hollywood selecting white actors to play roles intended for them.

    “Tilda eventually emailed me and she said that she didn’t understand why people were so mad about ‘Doctor Strange’ and she wanted to talk about it, and wanted to get my take on why all the Asian people were mad,” Cho told actor Bobby Lee on his podcast TigerBelly. “It was so weird.”

    Cho and Swinton evidently had a “long discussion” about whitewashing in the film industry, which the “Snowpiercer” actress asked her not make public. The conversation struck an uncomfortable note for Cho, an unapologetic critic of Hollywood’s representational deficiencies, who in her own words, ended up feeling like a “house Asian.”

    In response to Cho’s interview, Swinton’s team released the entire unedited email exchange on Friday for “the opportunity to clarify and with all good wishes to all,” according to Vulture. Later that night, Cho made a statement reiterating that “Asian actors should play Asian roles,” but writing that she remains a huge fan of Swinton’s.

    The five emails between the two actresses were written in May 2016 months before the premiere of “Doctor Strange,” as the backlash to Swinton’s casting gained traction. You can read them below:

    On Friday, May 13, 2016, Tilda Swinton wrote:
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    Continued from previous post


    Dear Margaret,

    We’ve never met, but you’ve been in my head for years - I’m a fan.
    I want to ask you a favour now which is sprung out of a truly important social conversation but may be heading for some crazy-making ****.

    The diversity debate - ALL STRENGTH to it - has come knocking at the door of Marvel’s new movie DR STRANGE.

    I am told that you are aware of this. But since I am that extinct beast that does no social media, I am unaware of what exactly anybody has said about any of it. I believe there are some ironies about this particular film being a target, but I’m frankly much more interested in listening than saying anything much.

    I would really love to hear your thoughts and have a - private - conversation about it. Are you up for this? Can we e-mail?

    No wrong answer here. Tell me to **** off if you feel like it. In any and every case,

    Much love to you,

    Tilda
    From: Margaret Cho
    To: Tilda Swinton
    Sent: Fri, 13 May 2016 13:32
    Subject: Re: Strange matters

    Sure! I’m a big fan of yours - since orlando!

    Well, what do you know so far? I can tell you from my perspective what’s happening!

    The character you played in Dr Strange was originally written as a Tibetan man and so there’s a frustrated population of Asian Americans who feel the role should have gone to a person of Asian descent.

    The largerpart of the debate has to do with the ‘whitewashing’ of Asian and Asian Americans in film. Our stories are told by white actors over and over again and we feel at a loss to know how to cope with it.

    Protest seems to be the only solution- we just want more representative images of ourselves in film. TV is getting better in terms of diversity but film is lagging behind.

    Anyway - hope this helps! We can totally email and we can be private! Best, m
    On Friday, May 13, 2016, Tilda Swinton wrote:

    Thank you so much for your reply! So grateful to have a chance to chew this cud with you. Super clear.

    Here’s the situation I reckon Marvel was in. The old comic books from way back when are stuffed with stereotypes that we could all find offensive for any number of reasons.

    The film - like any film adaptation - is a riff on the books. The Ancient One may have been written as a Tibetan man in the comics, but Marvel, in a conscious effort to shake up stereotypes, wanted to avoid tired cliché. They cast Chiwetel Ejiofor as the second lead - a white Transylvanian in the books. And wrote a significant Asian character to be played by Benedict Wong.

    With The Ancient One (the ‘wise old Eastern geezer’ Fu Manchu type in the book), wanting to switch up the gender (another diversity department) and not wanting to engage with the old ‘Dragon Lady’ trope, they chose to write the character as being of (ancient) Celtic origin and offered that role to me. Presumably on Ancient grounds. I accepted happily, impressed that, for once, they aimed to disrupt the ‘wisdom must be male’ never-ending story - and, by the way, for once, wanting to feature a woman who’s a badass, over 26 and not simply bursting out of a bikini.

    The biggest irony about this righteous protest targeting this particular film is the pains the makers went to to avoid it.

    A - personal - irony to my being even remotely involved in this controversy is what I stand up for and always have. Whether it is challenging the idea of what women look like, or how any of us live our lives, or how we educate our children, diversity is pretty much my comfort zone. The idea of being caught on the wrong side of this debate is a bit of a nightmare to me.

    I am as sick as anybody at the lack of a properly diverse cinematic universe. Pretty much sick of the Anglophone world in general, sick of all the men’s stories, sick of all the symmetrical features and Mattel-inspired limbs..

    I’m a Scottish woman of 55 who lives in the Highlands. There’s precious little projected on contemporary cinema screens that means a great deal to my life, if truth be told.

    So

    How best might we focus this thing? To offer intelligent and empowered thinking.. And see something constructive coming out of this moment?

    Ducking the issue is not what I am about. I want to meet it, but, if possible, move things forward by how I meet it.

    I realise, as far as I am concerned, this possibly means saying nothing: so far I have attempted to correct the notion that I accepted an offer to play an Asian.. (!!) the most significant and damaging misunderstanding out there, it seems. Beyond that, I don’t feel it appropriate for me to add anything, certainly at this point.

    But I would love to know what ideas you - or anyone you know - have of something properly progressive to bring to this table. The debate is so important for all of us. It needs to build itself on strong ground.

    love

    Tilda
    From: Margaret Cho
    To: Tilda Swinton
    Sent: Fri, 13 May 2016 20:44
    Subject: Re: Strange matters

    I’m totally unfamiliar with all the comic books so I can’t speak on anything about that - and the efforts to make this film more diverse is unfortunately lost in the translation here. Hopefully that comes up more when the film comes out and is finally brought to audiences!

    I think that it’s just a timing thing - Asian Americans are fed up with not being given roles even if the part called for someone of Asian descent - and that the Ancient One role was being used as another example of ‘whitewashing’. Social media has grown to the point where we can use it effectively to express - well whatever.

    I believe very much that you as an artist are about diversity and your body of work shows that - but this particular case of the Ancient One is just another in a long list of ‘whitewashed’ Asian characters and so you’re likely to feel the heat of history.

    I am not sure what to say other than I am glad you want to meet the issue head on - it’s a tough one I know.

    I think that talking about the issue frankly - as you have done with me is the right way to go. It’s hard I know - people get very angry and it’s difficult to know what to do to get around that anger. But you should know that it’s anger built up over many many years of invisibility within film/tv/media that’s just exploded now with this film. And it’s not just you - It’s also directed at Scarlett Johanssen for Ghost in the Shell.

    Maybe what’s best is the highlight the diversity that you do see in the film and that being why you felt drawn to the project.

    Also acknowledge that you’re all about diversity and how you want the films you make to be diverse and how film can benefit from that.

    I’d even suggest getting into producing content that would give Asian American voices a platform? That’s really what is being asked for. Asian Americans feel as if we have no place in film and so we want one to be created. Whether that is found in supporting projects that would bring Asians into the foreground or even just discussing what it would take to do such a thing would help.
    On Friday, May 13, 2016, Tilda Swinton wrote:

    I can’t thank you enough for this.

    It really helps me sort out the lay of the land. To be continued.

    x

    By the way, the project I have been developing as a producer over the past two years is with Bong Joon Ho - my colleague from SNOWPIERCER - a film called OKJA shooting this summer in Korea, NYC and Vancouver - to my knowledge the first ever half Korean/half English speaking film, which we are making with Plan B and Netflix, in which the lead is a 14 year old girl from Korea and which stars Steven Yeun, amongst others.. fingers crossed it will be a big deal and help the landscape somewhat.. I hope and believe it will.
    From: Margaret Cho
    To: Tilda Swinton
    Sent: Fri, 13 May 2016 22:30
    Subject: Re: Strange matters

    Hey that’s great about OKJA!
    It's always interesting what the actual emails reveal...
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    Greetings,

    I recently saw this and it quickly got to the point where I was just waiting for the line, "I have had the I Ching manual for 12 years. If I haven't mastered it by now, I'd regard myself as an idiot!" (Chinese language version with subs was 10 years). I now understand why Dr Strange's was not depicted as Asian because, basically, it was Shaolin vs Lama. What a fukkin' rip. And Dr Strange's woman friend was Shao Shier, always there to help him out. I saw touches of "Contact" and "Mad Monkey" (the hand issue), with an added splish of theme music reminiscent of the movie "The Omen".

    I did not like the way immortality was explored nor did I appreciate how the Dread Dormamu (sp?) was portrayed: as a powerful simpleton.

    I only wish I could get that green amulet so I could get my time back.


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    Doctor Strange 2

    I'll split this into an indie thread later.

    DECEMBER 11, 2018 2:20pm PT by Borys Kit
    Scott Derrickson Returning to Direct 'Doctor Strange' Sequel (Exclusive)


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    Benedict Cumberbatch (left) and Scott Derrickson on the set of 2016's 'Doctor Strange'

    When it comes to negotiations, they're in the endgame now.

    Marvel is finally ready to conjure up a sequel to Doctor Strange.

    Scott Derrickson, who directed and co-wrote the mystical Marvel hero's initial 2016 outing, has quietly finalized a deal to helm the new installment.

    A search for a writer to pen the script is about to get underway.

    Benedict Cumberbatch will return as Stephen Strange, the good doctor turned master of the mystic arts, as will Benedict Wong, who played his right-hand man, Wong. Rachel McAdams, who played Stephen Strange’s love interest, is likely to return as well.

    Strange was last seen de-materializing in the $2 billion-grossing Avenger: Infinity War, where one of his lines of dialogue served as the inspiration for the title of the fourth Avengers movie, Avengers: Endgame.

    Marvel has been tight-lipped about its plans for life after Endgame, which it is calling Phase Four. After all, how much can there be when half your heroes are supposed to be dead?

    In any case, sources tell The Hollywood Reporter that the plan is for the script to be hashed out in 2019 with an eye toward a spring 2020 production start. If all goes well, the movie would be casting its spell on audiences in May 2021.

    Marvel had no comment.

    Derrickson carved out a résumé of horror movies such as 2005's The Exorcism of Emily Rose and 2012's Sinister before making 2016’s Doctor Strange, which grossed $677.7 million worldwide. Earlier this year, he directed the pilot for TNT’s adaptation of Snowpiercer, but parted ways with the production after the showrunner was replaced.

    Derrickson is repped by WME, Brillstein Entertainment Partners and Ziffren Brittenham.

    I suppose this is a spoiler for Avengers 4.
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    Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness

    Splitting this into an indie thread - Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness - from the original Doctor Strange thread now.

    NEWSFEBRUARY 5, 2020 4:07PM PT
    Sam Raimi in Talks to Direct ‘Doctor Strange 2’ (EXCLUSIVE)
    By ADAM B. VARY and JUSTIN KROLL


    CREDIT: SHUTTERSTOCK/MARVEL

    Sam Raimi, who helped launch the modern superhero movie with 2002’s “Spider-Man,” is in talks to direct “Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness” for Marvel Studios, Variety has learned.

    Raimi replaces original director Scott Derrickson, who Variety reported on Jan. 9 had officially departed the project due to creative differences. Derrickson will remain as an executive producer. Raimi, meanwhile, will need to get up to speed before the film’s scheduled production start date in May.

    Marvel had no comment.

    After finishing his “Spider-Man” trilogy for Sony Pictures with 2007’s “Spider-Man 3,” Raimi’s output as a director slowed considerably, with just the horror pic “Drag Me to Hell” in 2009 and Disney’s “The Wizard of Oz” prequel “Oz the Great and Powerful” in 2013. Instead, he’s been busy as a producer, helping relaunch various horror franchises like “Poltergeist” and his own classic, “Evil Dead.”

    This is something of a coup for both Raimi and Marvel, given Raimi’s reputation with comic book fans — 2004’s “Spider-Man 2” is still widely regarded as one of the best superhero movies ever made. And with 15 features to his name as a director — including the beloved horror trilogy “The Evil Dead,” “Evil Dead II,” and “Army of Darkness” — Raimi is also the most established filmmaker to join the Marvel Studios fold since the earliest days of the studio, when Kenneth Branagh and Joe Johnston respectively directed the first “Thor” and “Captain America” movies in 2011.

    Since then, Marvel’s m.o. has been to hire talented filmmakers who’ve made just a few (or zero) features before, and nothing at a blockbuster scale, like Joss Whedon, Anthony and Joe Russo, James Gunn, Ryan Coogler, and Taika Waititi. Raimi, by contrast, comes to “Doctor Strange 2” with his own distinctive visual style and decades of experience with making tentpole movies, especially featuring Marvel superheroes.

    Benedict Cumberbatch is returning as the Sorcerer Supreme after his 2016 debut, and subsequent appearances in “Thor: Ragnarok,” “Avengers: Infinity War,” and “Avengers: Endgame.” Benedict Wong and Chiwetel Ejiofor are also expected to reprise their roles from the original film as, respectively, fellow sorcerer Wong and Strange’s compatriot-turned-nemesis Karl Mordo. And Elizabeth Olsen has been tapped to reprise her role as Scarlet Witch, aka Wanda Maximoff, for a storyline that Marvel Studios chief Kevin Feige has said will link up with her Disney Plus series “WandaVision,” which will debut in December.

    Rachel McAdams, however, will not reprise her role as Strange’s colleague Christine Palmer.

    “Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness” is scheduled to open on May 7, 2021.

    Marvel Studios’ next theatrical project, “Black Widow,” will open on May 1, followed by “Eternals” on Nov. 6, and “Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings” on Feb. 12, 2021.

    Raimi is repped by CAA.
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    Feige regrets white washing

    May 20, 2021 7:27am PT
    Kevin Feige Admits Marvel Shouldn’t Have Whitewashed Tilda Swinton’s ‘Doctor Strange’ Character


    By Jordan Moreau


    Courtesy of Marvel
    Marvel film “Doctor Strange” courted some controversy when it cast actor Tilda Swinton, a white woman, in the role of The Ancient One, who is typically portrayed in the comics as an Asian man. Marvel Studios defended the casting leading up to the release, but now president Kevin Feige has addressed the controversy and admitted the company could have handled it differently.

    In 2016, Marvel Studios released a statement about Swinton’s casting, saying “Marvel has a very strong record of diversity in its casting of films and regularly departs from stereotypes and source material to bring its MCU to life. The Ancient One is a title that is not exclusively held by any one character, but rather a moniker passed down through time, and in this particular film the embodiment is Celtic. We are very proud to have the enormously talented Tilda Swinton portray this unique and complex character alongside our richly diverse cast.”

    On Wednesday, Feige spoke to Men’s Health for a cover story on the upcoming Asian-led Marvel film “Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings,” saying that “Doctor Strange” could have cast an Asian actor.

    “We thought we were being so smart, and so cutting-edge,” he said. “We’re not going to do the cliché of the wizened, old, wise Asian man. But it was a wake-up call to say, ‘Well, wait a minute, is there any other way to figure it out? Is there any other way to both not fall into the cliché and cast an Asian actor?’ And the answer to that, of course, is yes.”

    At the time, “Doctor Strange” director Scott Derrickson and co-star Benedict Wong defended Swinton’s casting, while other Asian actors and visibility groups criticized it.

    In a major push for diversity, “Shang-Chi” will be the first Marvel film to feature a predominantly Asian cast, with the lead role being played by Simu Liu. The film hits theaters September 3.
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    Zara Phythian

    ‘Doctor Strange’ actress Zara Phythian and husband accused of sex with teen
    By Joe Tacopino April 27, 2022 | 7:29pm

    An actress who appeared in “Doctor Strange” has been accused, along with her husband, of having sex with a teenage girl, a report said.

    Zara Phythian — a martial artist who played a sorcerer in the 2016 Marvel movie — has been accused of sex crimes along with husband Victor Marke for “repeatedly having sex” with a 13-year-old girl, according to the Nottinghamshire Post.

    The girl, who is now an adult, claims Phythian, 36, and Marke, 59, plied her with alcohol and had sex with her between 2005 and 2008. She also said they filmed some of the encounters.

    “I knew it was wrong but I just didn’t know how to get out of the situation or say anything,” she told cops, according to the outlet.

    “I remember trying to copy Zara’s reaction at the time because I looked up to her and tried to be like her in every way.”

    Both Phythian and Marke were martial arts instructors in the UK when the teenager reached out to them.


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    The alleged victim claims some of Zara Phythian’s and Victor Marke’s sexual encounters with them were filmed.
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    The woman now claims that Phythian asked her to play a game of “dare” and give Marke oral sex.

    Pythian and Marke both denied the allegations in court.
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    Convicted of multiple counts of child sex abuse

    Doctor Strange actress Zara Phythian and husband convicted of multiple counts of child sex abuse
    The couple's offenses relate to sexual activity with a 13-year-old girl, as well as another underage victim.

    By Joey Nolfi
    May 11, 2022 at 04:14 PM EDT

    Doctor Strange actress Zara Phythian and her husband, Victor Marke, have been convicted of multiple charges of child sex abuse in a British court.

    According to a document provided to EW by the Nottingham Crown Court clerk, 37-year-old Phythian — who was tried under the name Zara Marke — was convicted of 14 counts, with her 59-year-old husband convicted of 18.

    The counts for Phythian all relate to sexual activity with a child that occurred between December 2005 and December 2008. She is named alongside Marke in all of her charges, though he is individually included on four additional indecent assault charges (for actions dating back to September 2002) as an individual.

    Marke's offenses include indecent assault of a 15-year-old victim, while both were convicted of multiple counts of sexual activity with another underage victim beginning when she was 13. Their actions span multiple years and repeated occasions involving the same victim.


    Zara Phythian at the 'Doctor Strange' premiere in 2016. | CREDIT: ANTHONY HARVEY/GETTY IMAGES
    Phythian has two dozen credits listed on IMDb, the most notable being a small role in the 2016 Doctor Strange blockbuster opposite Benedict Cumberbatch as a "Brunette Zealot." She does not appear in the sequel, Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness.

    Per BBC reporting, Marke claimed that the sexual activity occurred on only one occasion, and that Phythian was not involved alongside him. Phythian reportedly denied any sexual activity with one of the victims.

    Judge Mark Watson remanded the couple into custody following the trial, ahead of their May 16 sentencing. "Both of you know the sentence I pass on 16 May is likely to be measured by a considerable period of custody," he said at the trial.

    Nicole Hepburn from the Crown Prosecution Service said that Phythian and Marke were "exposed as the true liars" in the case, after the victims initially reported the pair years after the abuse began.

    "This abuse may have occurred some years ago, but that makes it no less serious and nor is it a barrier to justice," Hepburn continued, according to the BBC. "I would encourage anyone who has been abused in the past to come forward with the knowledge that the CPS will take your case seriously."
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