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    Have Mixed Martial Artist Used The Phoenix Eye Fist in the Cage ?

    Has any mixed martial artist used the Phoenix Eye Fist or Leopard Fist in combat in the cage in a fight ? It seems with the way there gloves are that they could form these fist and use them to strike the temple or other pressure points .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firehawk4 View Post
    Has any mixed martial artist used the Phoenix Eye Fist or Leopard Fist in combat in the cage in a fight ? It seems with the way there gloves are that they could form these fist and use them to strike the temple or other pressure points .
    Ask yourself why you would use those techniques, and what is entailed in making them effective. You'll answer your own question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firehawk4 View Post
    Has any mixed martial artist used the Phoenix Eye Fist or Leopard Fist in combat in the cage in a fight ? It seems with the way there gloves are that they could form these fist and use them to strike the temple or other pressure points .
    No, not really.
    WHY?
    Probably because there aren't any MMA fighters that have been trained to use them in the cage.
    Will there be? ever?
    Probably not.
    Why?
    Probably because the time needed to make them effective in the "real world" VS a trained fighter would be best spent doing more "higher percentage" things.
    Psalms 144:1
    Praise be my Lord my Rock,
    He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !

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    i found some old rule on mixed martial arts in the cage

    It was a legal move/takedown. He won due to breaking the opponents arm.

    Fouls
    The following acts are universally considered fouls in the mixed martial arts world:

    Headbutting.
    Eye gouging.
    Hair pulling.
    Biting.
    Fish-hooking.
    Attacking the groin.
    Strikes to the back of the head and spinal area. (see Rabbit punch)
    Strikes to, or grabs of the trachea.
    Small joint manipulation (control of three or more fingers/toes is necessary).
    Intentionally throwing your opponent out of the ring/cage.
    Running out of the ring/cage.
    Purposely holding the ring ropes or cage fence.
    Grabbing or putting a hand inside the trunks or gloves of the opponent.

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    Let's not forget that MMA has rules to protect the fighters from serious injury. Fong Yang (ippon ken) is a very dangerous technique if used by a trained practitioner, one easy example is an augmented uppercut to the solar plexus (augmented with a fong yang) if it strikes the xiphoid process. Let's not confuse sport with a true martial art.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rauljasso View Post
    Let's not forget that MMA has rules to protect the fighters from serious injury.


    Fong Yang (ippon ken) is a very dangerous technique if used by a trained practitioner, one easy example is an augmented uppercut to the solar plexus (augmented with a fong yang) if it strikes the xiphoid process.
    You honestly believe that is going to deliver more force than an errant knee to the same area?
    This is no more dangerous than anything else a fighter may face. Practically every physical sport this risk...

    Let's not confuse sport with a true martial art.
    You're right, the latter tends to be stuck in fantasy

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    Quote Originally Posted by rauljasso View Post
    Let's not forget that MMA has rules to protect the fighters from serious injury. Fong Yang (ippon ken) is a very dangerous technique if used by a trained practitioner, one easy example is an augmented uppercut to the solar plexus (augmented with a fong yang) if it strikes the xiphoid process. Let's not confuse sport with a true martial art.
    Big difference between pros and good amateurs than most guys in MA's. Simple reality check. You are probably not that good ! I know I am not. They don't concern themselves with iffy sh-t. In my opinion, it basically sucks. Okay, it might work great against an out of shape dude but you try some one knuckle punch on those guys you will most likely hurt your hand regardless how long you worked that bucket of sand. I will add I believe it would work better on a circle than a straight line but to each their own.

    Now, for arguments sakes. Lets say this is a kill shot. Why in the f--ck are you even consider using it in a sport ? What is this fascination people have with killing another person ? Will it kill ? Yeah, but does it kill like this can ? That's is great for sport but this kills mother----uckers. I do not want to ever kill anyone, Period ! It really confuses me why people do not seriously self talk to themselves about something as grave as that can be. I believe most of us will come to the same conclusion I have. Not for me, thanks anyway!

    If someone wants to kill just use a knife or gun. It works way better with far, far less training involved to work. Then you get to go to prison to try your fong yang or whatever out. Bet they don't know anything about it there nor do they care. Welcome to another venue where there are PRO's.

    Anyway, leave the so called and actual deadly sh---t out of the ring. Enough bad can already happen.

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