We're just waiting for the WC people to reply
We're just waiting for the WC people to reply
This forum was dead so I thought Ill make a post. Believe it to be relevant to WC. I do not see a problem with comparing similar kicks and tactics from others systems. If Gene feels it should be moved into a more open forum, I have no issues with that. Glad it did as well as it has.
Technically you are correct but these kicks are in WC. What happens when you take Shotokan into the ring? You get killed. UNLESS you modify the heck out of it and combine it with what does work there. So then it is just okay, I can make this WC idea or technique work in a sport. Truthfully, the guy in the first vid could have learned this in any thai boxing gym. They have teep like side kicks. Probably have an oblique kick depending on who you go to and where the source originally came from. Old thai styles that may have kept that kick.
Is WC not about modifying to make it work ? It is a principal based art. I think people become slaves to must be done this way or it is not WC. Yet, pretty sure old time WC guys adapted and adopted to make sure they win and did not worry if there tan sao was a little off while using it for real. Relied more on that back up hand. But today in the world of you are probably never going to use any of this out of the training hall. Well, you got time and no real pressure to make your WC picture perfect. Same for most traditional arts. You can get all theoretical. Go kenpo analysis paralysis crazy.
Technically those kicks are in Morris dancing, however morris dancing won't work in the cage because the training methods are suited for fighting, the question isn't does wing chun have these kicks, the question is why is no wing chun guy doing those kicks in MMA, why do we have to post a clip of a fighter who has zero experience in wing chun to show its kicks can work....
Perhaps you would be more approving if I had titles the thread," Look Mom, No hands- WC type kicks being used successfully in the ring. "
At this gym, apparently.
While "Bones" is singled out, the technique is not uncommon at the Jackson-Winklejohn camp in Albuquerque, New Mexico, where Jones trains. Carlos Condit has also employed the oblique kick, most notably in his knockout win over Dan Hardy at UFC 120 across the pond.