Traditional Wushu vs Cinematic Wushu

[SPJ]

Interview with He Jing Han (Ba Gua Quan)

Traditional Wushu is about passing from one generation to the next.

Movie is about display or show.

Traditional training is about basic practice and boring. They may not be good to see or show.

etc.

[wolfen]

Something on the same subject in English from Adam Hsu

Eight video Playlist 1 hr 26 min total
Sword Polisher's Interview: Adam Hsu on the True Art of Kung Fu
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...-e-KvXhPyCHItP

Sword Polisher's Interview: Adam Hsu on the True Art of Kung Fu (1/8)


Chinese family traditions are different from Western Family traditions.
Socialist and Leftist governments often wage war on the family and family structures and family businesses. this is particularity true in North America today.
They also wage war on the individual's natural mind in pubic education and the workplace.
This affects what kind of raw material /recruits are available to the marital arts, what interest there is in the martial arts and what kind of martial arts are actually practiced.

[Jimbo]

SPJ:

Of course, cinematic CMA/wushu is for entertainment, not for educational purposes. The same as action movies with lots of gunfights; they are to entertain audiences and are not tutorials on real-life shooting scenarios. The same with cinematic representations of car chases, paranormal experiences, romances, etc., etc. Even movies that appear more realistic than others are still 'fake'. If they were presented in movies as they happen in real life, they would be boring, too.

wolfen:

As far as some cultures' people being more compatible for CMA training: In Taiwan, the most popular and widely-practiced MA was TKD, especially among kids. Far more popular than CMA. Part of the reason is that CMA have a poor reputation among many people there as being less organized and being associated with gangsters. In some instances those stereotypes were true. The nice white uniforms, belt grading systems, board breaking, easy-to-understand applications, spectacular kicks, connections to a recognized world-wide association (and now the Olympics), and more frequent tournaments, lack of 'secrecy' and generally nicer facilities in TKD schools, make TKD more desirable to a high number of people in Taiwan. I also remember hearing back in the 1970s that TKD was the most popular MA in Hong Kong as well.

I'm not saying that TKD is better than CMA. If I believed that, I would have chosen that over CMA. My point is that even many people who grow up and live in the Chinese culture apparently do not prefer CMA, whether or not we may consider that justified or not.

There are individuals born in the West who can love CMA and gain as deep an understanding as any high-level practitioner from China, Taiwan or anywhere else. It's the individual, and their inherent dedication to and innate compatibility and intelligence regarding whichever CMA they train that really matters.

[wolfen]

SPJ:

wolfen:

As far as some cultures' people being more compatible for CMA training: In Taiwan, the most popular and widely-practiced MA was TKD, especially among kids. Far more popular than CMA. Part of the reason is that CMA have a poor reputation among many people there as being less organized and being associated with gangsters. In some instances those stereotypes were true. The nice white uniforms, belt grading systems, board breaking, easy-to-understand applications, spectacular kicks, connections to a recognized world-wide association (and now the Olympics), and more frequent tournaments, lack of 'secrecy' and generally nicer facilities in TKD schools, make TKD more desirable to a high number of people in Taiwan. I also remember hearing back in the 1970s that TKD was the most popular MA in Hong Kong as well.

I'm not saying that TKD is better than CMA. If I believed that, I would have chosen that over CMA. My point is that even many people who grow up and live in the Chinese culture apparently do not prefer CMA, whether or not we may consider that justified or not.

There are individuals born in the West who can love CMA and gain as deep an understanding as any high-level practitioner from China, Taiwan or anywhere else. It's the individual, and their inherent dedication to and innate compatibility and intelligence regarding whichever CMA they train that really matters.

I am familiar with all that, I lived in Taiwan for a number of years. I didn't compare Taiwan to America, or TKD to CMA I contrasted Socialism to Art. I am accounting for the trends both East and West.. Though the title is not comprehensive enough, it should be something like Government versus Art, though socialism the most annoying dog here. That dog has brought a cloud of cultural Marxism that has descended on the West with it 's corresponding behaviour control methods.

And what makes an individual an "individual"? Qualities such as creativity, resilience, questioning, challenging, self-actualization self-reliance, self-development, spiritual questing etc are Anti-State
To be individual is to somehow have escaped state indoctrination in public education. For an example of the depth of this look at the State sponsored Pharma Industry and the damage that has done to the population. So I was talking about the destructiveness governments have on families, family values and the individual and how the affects the practice of kungfu.

[wolfen]

And you thought I was exaggerating....No more mothers and fathers

Saying 'Shifu' is illegal and PC incorrect.
.. no family values , no family kung fu.

News stories from two provinces in Canada

Wynne Liberals move to erase words "mother" and "father" from Ontario laws

Ontario MPPs approve motion to remove words mother, father from government forms
Forms should 'reflect diverse nature' of families, MPP Glenn Thibeault says
Ontario lawmakers have approved a motion to remove the words 'mother' and 'father' from all government forms to "reflect the diverse nature" of families in the province.


Glenn Thibeault


... It's official: My motion has passed unanimously in the House - no opposition from any member of legislature!

Alberta, Canada's Progressive New Government Bans the Words "Mother" and "Father" in Schools

It used to be: "Heather has two mommies."

Now, it's: "Heather has two non-gendered and inclusive caregivers."

That's the language the New Democratic Party government in Alberta, Canada, is telling teachers and school administrators to use when adressing the adults with whom students are living. Out: "mother" and "father." In: "parent," "caregiver," "partner," whatever.

And God help you if refer to one of the little rascals as "him" or "her."

Here's the pertinent language from the rainbow-adorned "Guidelines for Best Practices" that the highminded-progressive NDP government issued last week:

School forms, websites, letters, and other communications use non-gendered and inclusive language (e.g., parents/guardians, caregivers, families, partners, “student” or “their” instead of Mr., Ms., Mrs., mother, father, him, her, etc.)."

The purpose of the guidelines, according to the text, is to create "learning communities" that "respect diverse sexual orientations, gender identies, and gender expressions."

This is cultural Marxism, the destruction of the family and individuality by the State.

[David Jamieson]

And you thought I was exaggerating....No more mothers and fathers

Saying 'Shifu' is illegal and PC incorrect.
.. no family values , no family kung fu.

News stories from two provinces in Canada

Wynne Liberals move to erase words "mother" and "father" from Ontario laws










Alberta, Canada's Progressive New Government Bans the Words "Mother" and "Father" in Schools



This is cultural Marxism, the destruction of the family and individuality by the State.

Lol, ^ This is simplistic alarmist propaganda. Also, it was a motion towards inclusiveness and recognition of the change in family structure that is more apparent every day.

The so called nuclear family isn't really the only thing there is anymore. There's lots of variation on what constitutes families now and the motion towards inclusive language cuts off at the pass any attempts to demoralize or oppress those who do not fit into a rigid framework that is only subscribed to by an ever smaller portion of the population.

[SPJ]

Discussion of all aspects of Wushu in modern media rich society.

Traditional Wushu requires us for long term practice to appreciate the nuclei of values, thoughts, etc.

[GeneChing]

Interview with He Jing Han (Ba Gua Quan)

He Jing-Han was our NOV+DEC 2004 cover master.