Question on Meihuaquan

[Oolong]

Hello,
to Sal, et al...

I am interested in training Meihuaquan, but don't know of any teachers in my area. Would learning Shilu Tantui (10 Road) online be a decent starting point? I seem to be really enjoying it so far.

[Oolong]

bump.......

[zuti car]

Does it have to be Minghe ? Maybe you can try some other crane .

[bawang]

the flowers bloom and wither and bloom again,
like fly returning to poop,
the random internet nerd
asking for online instruction in obscure kung fu style

[rett2]

Hello,
to Sal, et al...

I am interested in training Meihuaquan, but don't know of any teachers in my area. Would learning Shilu Tantui (10 Road) online be a decent starting point? I seem to be really enjoying it so far.

Online training is like buying paper flowers. Sure, maybe they’re "orchids" but a real life dandelion is still better. Just my 2¢, since I don't know anything about your exact situation. But I'd gravitate towards finding a group/teacher you like within your travel radius and just learning whatever they happen to teach.

[Oolong]

Not looking for online training. I''m kinda living in my car right now, so options are limited.... Just wondering if the tantui would be something good to hold me over, until I can afford to enroll in a class.

It seems like Minute Rice..... pretty hard to **** up.

[YouKnowWho]

Not looking for online training. I''m kinda living in my car right now, so options are limited.... Just wondering if the tantui would be something good to hold me over, until I can afford to enroll in a class.

It seems like Minute Rice..... pretty hard to **** up.

I assume you are talking about Meihua long fist 花拳 (Hua Chuan). In that system, there are 3 most important forms.

beginner level - 弹煺 (Tan Tui)
intermediate level - 十字趟 (Shi Zi Tan)
advance level - 太祖长拳 (Tai Zu Chang Cguan)

So 弹煺 (Tan Tui) is a good starting point. All 3 forms can be found online through GM Han Chin-Tang's 花拳 (Hua Chuan) system.

弹煺 (Tan Tui):

[YouKnowWho]

十字趟 (Shi Zi Tan):

[YouKnowWho]

太祖长拳 (Tai Zu Chang Cguan):

[Oolong]

Very cool thanks for help

[Oolong]

This is the version I've been trying to learn. Is it the Muslim one?




*Also, I notice they punch out with the fist horizontal instead of vertical. This feels more natural to me

[YouKnowWho]

That's the 1st road of Tan Tui.

The

- vertical fist is to train how to keep your elbow joint downward to protect your chest.
- horizontal fist is easily to be "cracked". If you use vertical fist, you can still bend your elbow joint to release that pressure.

[-N-]

Would learning Shilu Tantui (10 Road) online be a decent starting point? I seem to be really enjoying it so far.

It seems like Minute Rice..... pretty hard to **** up.

This is the version I've been trying to learn. Is it the Muslim one?




*Also, I notice they punch out with the fist horizontal instead of vertical. This feels more natural to me

Actually, there are a lot of ways to mess up, even if you have a teacher.

You might get the superficial appearance but it can be difficult to develop the proper fundamentals that Tan Tui is supposed to teach.

For example, the guy in that video doesn't understand how to drive his power from the rear leg. This is a common problem that people struggle with, even when they get direct hands on coaching and correction.

Still better than sitting around eating Fritos and watching tv, I suppose.

[YouKnowWho]

Actually, there are a lot of ways to mess up, even if you have a teacher.

IMO, the most difficult part of Tan Tui training is the "front kick". You won't get into detail when you learned Tan Tui but in more advanced form training such as "三路炮 (San Lu Pao) - Pao Chuan #3", or until you train toe push kick on heavy bag. Many people went back to correct their Tan Tui front kick after that. Many people didn't.

If you look at GM Han Chin-Tang's front kick in Tan Tui, you can see his front kick is quite different from those modern Wushu front kick (check online).

- He raised his knee as high as he could.
- He bent his knee close to his chest.
- He kicked out by using a "downward curve".
- He didn't pull his kick back. He used it to step forward.

[YouKnowWho]

In this clip, the kicking path is an "upward curve". Also he pulls his kicking leg back before steps forward