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    Quote Originally Posted by wiz cool c View Post
    why because I have been at the school for a year and a half and he has been there maybe a month. because I am 46 and have done martial arts 30 years, he studied a little in the army. cause he is trying to teach me something I learned before he was born, cause no one asked him to try and teach me. so if he wants to play teacher with me well, prove it pal. prove what you are showing me works. its calling bull****.
    So, ego tripped off by a young kid. Got it.

    after I popped him once he should have been on guard, I popped him again and then again.
    He shouldn't need to be on guard while explaining something to fellow practitioners in a learning/sharing environment.

    If you felt your ego was being challenged, why didn't you just ask him to spar?

    yeah go into a thaiboxing gym in thialand ,or a judo school in japan and try playing this game with them and see how that goes. only in kung fu fantasy land does this garbage fly.
    I think most serious schools know the difference between demo mode and fight mode.

    It proves nothing to tag someone during their demo and explanation of something.

    If you really want the guy to prove something, or you want to prove something to him, just ask him to a proper spar.

    Popping him during his little demo is just kind of a cheap, d!ck move to me, sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LFJ View Post
    So, ego tripped off by a young kid. Got it.



    He shouldn't need to be on guard while explaining something to fellow practitioners in a learning/sharing environment.

    If you felt your ego was being challenged, why didn't you just ask him to spar?



    I think most serious schools know the difference between demo mode and fight mode.

    It proves nothing to tag someone during their demo and explanation of something.

    If you really want the guy to prove something, or you want to prove something to him, just ask him to a proper spar.

    Popping him during his little demo is just kind of a cheap, d!ck move to me, sorry.
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    Kung fu experts next in line for MMA fighter who whipped tai chi master in just 10 seconds
    Tai chi exponents say they’ll take up the challenge issued by MMA fighter Xu Xiaodong
    PUBLISHED : Tuesday, 02 May, 2017, 2:24pm
    UPDATED : Tuesday, 02 May, 2017, 11:50pm


    Zhuang Pinghui

    At least three traditional martial arts masters have picked up the gauntlet thrown down by mixed martial arts (MMA) fighter Xu *Xiaodong, saying they were willing to face him in combat to defend their tactics and traditions.
    But exponents of traditional martial arts said that even if the challengers lost in the ring against Xu, it would not mean their approach was inferior to the modern MMA way.
    Xu, a trained kung fu free-combat sportsman who taught himself MMA, has claimed that traditional martial arts are outdated and only good for keeping in shape. In combat, free-style fighting or boxing was more practical, The Beijing News quoted him as saying on Monday.
    Xu’s comments came after he took just 10 seconds to defeat tai chi master Wei Lei – who also calls himself Lei Lei – in a fight in Chengdu, Sichuan province, last week, reigniting debate over which approach is superior. Wei is a practitioner of the Yang style of tai chi, characterised by slow, steady movements.
    Xu said on his microblog that he could take on two or three traditional martial artists and a number had already accepted.
    Among Xu’s challengers were two tai chi masters Lu Xing and Wang Zhanhai; Guangzhou native Li Shangxian who specialises in the Shaolin Meihua Zhuang form of Chinese boxing, and Yi Long, a monk known for his martial arts prowess.


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    Lu told the Chengdu Business News that he wanted to teach Xu a lesson.
    “He is deeply biased against traditional martial arts and his words were insulting. I challenged him so he could have a fresh perspective of tai chi and the true traditional martial arts,” said Lu, who specialises in a form of tai chi known as tuishou, or pushing hands.
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    Lu said he was 80 per cent sure of winning because tai chi masters had “an iron fist, air foot and iron back, which took more than 20 years of hard training”.
    Xu’s form of martial arts was more about projecting an explosive force, he said.
    Wang, a Henan native who practises the Chen style of tai chi, said he decided to fight Xu to silence online dissenters.
    The Chen style of tai chi is characterised by a “silk-reeling” movement that alternates fast and slow motions and bursts of power.

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    Yi, the fighter monk, wrote on his microblog that he would not stand for the MMA fighter insulting traditional Chinese martial arts and “deceiving the public”.
    Jiang Lugui, president of the Taohua Tai Chi Research Institute under the Sichuan Martial Arts Association, said tai chi had changed over time from a combat technique to a form of exercise.
    “People practice martial arts not to kill but to cultivate a healthy body. Tai chi has largely developed into a competitive sport or exercise for health,” Jiang said.
    “The practical nature of tai chi, to kill or overpower someone quickly, is no longer the reason people practise it.”
    He said tai chi was now more of about showing technique and even some senior kung fu masters might not win a fight because they had stopped practising the combat element.
    “Traditional martial arts called for long hours of practising some lethal moves to overpower an opponent quickly. But this is not appropriate in the modern era,” Jiang said.
    Another tai chi master from the Beijing Martial Arts Association, said tai chi and mixed martial arts did not follow the same rules and exponents of the two should not go up against each other.
    We know Yi Long. The plot thickens for That MMA vs Taiji Fight Everyones Talking About.
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    Well, I hope whoever takes up the challenge from now on is young enough, has actual fighting experience, and comes actually prepared for a fight and not just push hands demos and playing hands with awed students. I can imagine a lot of Taiji masters who've never had any full-contact fighting experience, watching the fight video and thinking he would be an easy opponent to exploit with his forward momentum. I really hope they don't fall into the trap of their own BS: "When he rushes me with punches like that, I'll just use my '4 ounces to repel his thousand pounds' attack."

    I'm hoping the next challenge will have a different outcome, but I'm not too optimistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Well, I hope whoever takes up the challenge from now on is young enough, has actual fighting experience, and comes actually prepared for a fight and not just push hands demos and playing hands with awed students. I can imagine a lot of Taiji masters who've never had any full-contact fighting experience, watching the fight video and thinking he would be an easy opponent to exploit with his forward momentum. I really hope they don't fall into the trap of their own BS: "When he rushes me with punches like that, I'll just use my '4 ounces to repel his thousand pounds' attack."

    I'm hoping the next challenge will have a different outcome, but I'm not too optimistic.
    Nah not gonna happen bro no ground game

    I'm actually very excited. If Chen village gets humiliated then they prolly lower the 40k usd baishi fee. Now I will finally have chance to become Chen disciple #kungfubargainbin

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    And of course...

    If a TC fighter of any sorts is able to beat this MMA exponent, people will say that he was not a good representative of MMA to begin with.
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    I think it might not be too long until he is instructed to shut his mouth (or at least some kind of media blackout) once the public debate swings in a nationalistic direction. He is after all highlighting the inferiority of a Chinese cultural treasure against a distinctly foreign construct. If anyone does manage to beat him they will be hailed as a national hero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.Tunks View Post
    I think it might not be too long until he is instructed to shut his mouth (or at least some kind of media blackout) once the public debate swings in a nationalistic direction. He is after all highlighting the inferiority of a Chinese cultural treasure against a distinctly foreign construct. If anyone does manage to beat him they will be hailed as a national hero.
    He already is. CCTV covered it, and had a formal response the the CMAA who arent too happy about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bawang View Post
    Nah not gonna happen bro no ground game

    I'm actually very excited. If Chen village gets humiliated then they prolly lower the 40k usd baishi fee. Now I will finally have chance to become Chen disciple #kungfubargainbin
    40K to baishi? Holy crap. Is that for everyone or mainly foreigners/outsiders?
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    Quote Originally Posted by B.Tunks View Post
    I think it might not be too long until he is instructed to shut his mouth (or at least some kind of media blackout) once the public debate swings in a nationalistic direction. He is after all highlighting the inferiority of a Chinese cultural treasure against a distinctly foreign construct. If anyone does manage to beat him they will be hailed as a national hero.
    Great point. I hadn't even thought of that. Although at this point it might be a bit late, since so many people have already seen the fight video. Blacking him out completely at this point will look like trying to sweep a weakness that's already been exposed under the rug so people will 'forget'.

    Does a high percentage of people in China even care about TCMA nowadays?
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    40K to baishi? Holy crap. Is that for everyone or mainly foreigners/outsiders?
    Errybody. 20 disciples is 800k. 3 levels of discipleship so 1 to 3 million

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    That is problem with most of those styles that mix faith with reality. A martial artist that trained in a style based in "ancient asian magic" trying to defeat a person that actually tests and tries his skills with little to no self-delusion is no diferent than,for example,a religious person trying to prove god's existence to a scientist.The first cases just won't win,simple as that.(please,don't transform this in a religious argument,i just used it as an example)

    I highly doubt that the yang family were as much "esoteric" as the so called "tai chi masters" of today. You just can't win without knowing how a combat works,simple as that,its illogical.

    The same thing can be said comparing aikido with old aikijutsu considering aikido students also have their butts handed to them considerably often.

    If you want to teach "soccer mom hobbie" martial arts,whatever,but please,don't mix things up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shanghai-mantis View Post
    He already is. CCTV covered it, and had a formal response the the CMAA who arent too happy about it.
    Everyone's getting involved, including Li Lianjie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Does a high percentage of people in China even care about TCMA nowadays?
    A lot of people still do, including many influential people.

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