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    I was wondering about this...

    After reading Vikander's news above, I was pondering exactly this question.

    Why Do So Many Hollywood Men Self-Pleasure for a Captive Audience?
    11:56 AM PST 11/14/2017 by Rebecca Sun


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    Louis C.K. and James Toback

    Many thought the act was a rare pathology — until the industry scandal. Experts explain this gross epidemic.
    Louis C.K.'s Nov. 9 confession to masturbating in front of multiple women without their consent, following similar graphic allegations against Harvey Weinstein, James Toback and Brett Ratner, shifts the stereotype of the sexual exhibitionist from subway flasher to Hollywood heavyweight. Although the urge to force others to witness sexual acts can be found in individuals at all socio*economic levels (and in all industries), experts say a unique combination of several factors enables that type of predilection among Hollywood's most powerful.

    First, whereas the gratification of basic urges — like lust — is typically checked by social layers, "power basically knocks out those constraints," says UC Berkeley psychology professor Dacher Keltner, author of The Power Paradox. "Power leads people to take the shortest, easiest path to expressing their desire, no matter what the social consequences. And when men have sexual desires, the most immediate way to gratify those is to masturbate."

    The cutthroat nature of the entertainment industry also serves as a type of natural selection. "If you look at what it takes to have success in politics or the arts, it's so highly competitive that it almost requires lack of empathy and a predatory nature to get to the top," says Alexandra Katehakis, clinical director of the Center for Healthy Sex in Los Angeles. "To throw yourself into the public eye, you've got to have a thick skin, which is often accompanied by some pathology, and that pathology is a narcissistic personality that feels highly entitled. You mix that with power and control, and you've got somebody with antisocial behaviors."

    L.A.-based psychologist Debra Borys agrees that narcissists are overrepresented in Hollywood and adds that the industry's gatekeeping structure lends itself to abuse. "There tends to be less institutionally codified means of rising and getting through a gate," she says, noting that showbiz's nontraditional meeting venues like hotels and trailers also play a role. "Very few people succeed, and they know it. That gives the people in management more power and makes the people trying to succeed more vulnerable."

    OK, but why that act specifically? These factors contribute to "an environment where this may be easier to get away with, or may happen more, for people who already have the proclivity," Borys continues. "But I don't think it creates monsters." In other words, these high-profile incidences may be making headlines, but for these sex experts, it's old hat.

    "It's not like it's happening more often," says San Francisco-based sex-trauma specialist Quandra Chaffers. "Frotteurism and exhibitionism have always existed. People are starting to adopt more language to explain what's happened to them. They have ways to talk about people forcing them to watch." In other words, the real surprise is not that it's happening, but that it's been happening all along.

    This story appears in the Nov. 15 issue of The Hollywood Reporter magazine.
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    House & Senate

    House and Senate Are ‘Among the Worst’ for Harassment, Representative Says
    By YAMICHE ALCINDOR and KATIE ROGERSNOV. 13, 2017


    Katherine Cichy says she was harassed by her direct supervisor while working for a Democratic senator’s office in 2013. Credit Mason Trinca for The New York Times

    WASHINGTON — A senior Senate staff member is accused of trying to tug open a junior aide’s wrap dress at a bar; she said he asked why she was “holding out.” A former aide says a congressman grabbed her backside, then winked as he walked away. A district worker said a House member told her to twirl in a dress for him, then gave her a bonus when he liked what he saw.

    As the nation at large deals with lurid stories of sexual harassment, Congress is only beginning to grapple with tales of sexual aggression that have long been fixtures of work life on Capitol Hill. On Tuesday, the Committee on House Administration will convene a hearing on harassment in Congress, putting the halls of the Capitol under scrutiny alongside the hotels of Hollywood, the kitchens of New Orleans, the board rooms of Silicon Valley and the suites of New York’s media giants.

    In the run-up, about 1,500 former Capitol Hill aides have signed an open letter to House and Senate leaders to demand that Congress put in place mandatory harassment training and revamp the Office of Compliance, the legislative branch’s opaque in-house adjudicator.

    “The Congress of the United States should be the one work environment where people are treated with respect, where there isn’t a hostile work environment,” said Representative Jackie Speier, Democrat of California, who will testify on Tuesday about her efforts to deal with harassment in the Capitol. “And frankly, it’s just the opposite. It’s probably among the worst.”

    In more than 50 interviews, lawyers, lobbyists and former aides told The New York Times that sexual harassment has long been an occupational hazard for those operating in Washington politics, and victims on Capitol Hill are forced to go through far more burdensome avenues to seek redress than their counterparts in the private sector.

    Under federal law, complainants must undergo a confidential process, where co-workers who might be able to provide corroborating evidence are excluded. They often must wait about three months before submitting an official complaint, yet must file one no later than 180 days after the episode. Once filed, victims must submit to up to 30 days of mandatory counseling and complete another 30 days of mediation.


    M. Reese Everson tried to report a member of Congress for flirting with her while she was a fellow at the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation. Credit Gabriella Demczuk for The New York Times

    If mediation fails, the person then must wait 30 more days before seeking an administrative hearing or filing a lawsuit in Federal District Court.

    “The system is so stacked,” said Debra Katz, a Washington lawyer who often works on sexual harassment cases. “They don’t want people to come forward.”

    With such rigid policies, even the most dogged complainants may find no avenue for resolution. In one case, a fellow at the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation, M. Reese Everson, brought a complaint against a House member to the Office of Compliance. But she said the office told her it could not handle her case because, as a fellow and not a full-time employee, she did not fall under its jurisdiction.

    She ended up filing her complaints with the District of Columbia government, where they have languished for over two years.

    Few deny the growing sense that Congress is, for many women, a hostile workplace. Last Thursday, the Senate approved a resolution that would create mandatory anti-harassment training for all Senate employees and interns, and would require training every two years. At least two other pieces of legislation that would make the changes even broader are in progress.

    Kristin Nicholson, a former chief of staff to Representative Jim Langevin, Democrat of Rhode Island, said Congress had not gone far enough. “We think training needs to be in-person to be more effective,” said Ms. Nicholson, who now directs the Government Affairs Institute at Georgetown University, “and we’re asking for reforms to the opaque process for reporting and resolving harassment claims.”

    In interviews, a few who were harassed said they were never even informed of the Office of Compliance’s existence.

    Rebecca Weir, a 39-year-old lawyer in Washington, had never heard of the office in 2001 when she said former Representative Gary Miller, Republican of California, asked her to twirl for him in his Diamond Bar, Calif., office.

    “He said, ‘My God, you look amazing today. Just stunning.’ And he was kind of leering at me, and then he asked me to twirl,” Ms. Weir recalled. “I was stunned, but I was young and dumb and here’s a member of Congress that I’m working for asking me to twirl in his office. So I did.”

    Ms. Weir said Mr. Miller’s chief of staff called from Washington soon after with some news.

    “‘Well Rebecca, I don’t know what you did, but Gary just called me and said you can have a $1,250 bonus, effective immediately,’” Ms. Weir recalled.

    On Monday, a woman who identified herself as Mr. Miller’s wife, Cathy Miller, denied the allegations. “I know my husband,” she said before adding that the claim was “yellow journalism.”

    There also was no mandatory training in place on Katherine Cichy’s 27th birthday in 2013. Ms. Cichy, then an aide for now-retired Senator Tim Johnson, Democrat of South Dakota, was walking through Union Station with colleagues when Ms. Cichy’s direct supervisor repeatedly called her “hot.”

    Ms. Cichy reported the episode to her chief of staff at the time, who she said made light of it, saying, “It is what it is.”

    Months later, Ms. Cichy took a job in another office. The man who harassed her stayed in Mr. Johnson’s office, as did his former chief of staff, Drey Samuelson, who said on Friday that he had warned the offending employee, “I would fire him, and it never happened again.” He said that he did not make light of the episode.
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    Laura Murphy, the former head of the American Civil Liberties Union’s Washington legislative office, said she endured a number of sexually suggestive incidents as generations of lawmakers cycled in and out of Congress. Credit Al Drago for The New York Times

    “Bottom line,” Ms. Cichy said, “my boss told me I was hot, and I had to sit in a room every day and work with him. And they didn’t do anything about it. Nothing.”

    For female lobbyists, sexual suggestions appear to be part of the price of access.

    In her 40 years on the Hill, Laura W. Murphy, the former head of the American Civil Liberties Union’s Washington legislative office, said she endured a number of sexually suggestive episodes as generations of lawmakers cycled in and out of Congress. In the 1980s, a House member, whose name she would not share, tried to kiss her in the produce aisle at a Capitol Hill grocery store. In the early 2000s, she said a lawmaker asked her for a working dinner, then propositioned her for sex.

    “At first it was about work,” Ms. Murphy, 62, said. “But then it devolved into a very blatant overture to have sex.”

    Like many women, Ms. Murphy did not report the episodes in part because she believed her career could be negatively affected and because she was not sure where she could turn.

    All of the women now coming forward are putting pressure on the Office of Compliance, whose processes date back to the Congressional Accountability Act of 1995. Between 1997 and 2014, the United States Treasury paid $15.2 million in 235 awards and settlements for Capitol Hill workplace violations under the office’s byzantine procedures, according to a recent Washington Post analysis of the Office of Compliance.

    Susan Tsui Grundmann, the office’s executive director, said that the office had received an increase in requests for harassment training in the past two weeks, and that the five-member board had repeatedly recommended since 2010 that Congress put in place regular mandatory harassment training.

    Bradford Fitch, president and chief executive of the Congressional Management Foundation, a group that helps lawmakers and staff run their offices, said sexual harassment was vastly underreported in congressional offices.

    This has been the case for decades: In 1989, Alice Cain was 22 and three months into a job as a chief of staff’s assistant for Paul Simon, who was then a Democratic senator from Illinois, when one of his top donors groped her and forcibly kissed her at a fund-raiser held at a Washington hotel.

    Ms. Cain, who is now 50 and works for a nonprofit organization, said that several other women in her office had similar experiences with that donor, whom she declined to name out of respect for his family. But she said it was years before the women spoke to one another about the episodes.

    “If I go into my boss’s office and say, ‘Oh, this guy did this to me’ — I don’t want to lose my job,” Ms. Cain said. “I think all of us made that calculation.”

    She said she decided to share her story belatedly “for the 22-year-olds now.”

    Others are reconsidering past experiences, episodes previously brushed off as playful or not a big deal, that register now as assault.

    Hannah Hudson was in her early 20s and working for a Democratic congressman from Oklahoma in 2009 when she was joined on a work trip by staff members from a Republican senator’s office. At a work outing, she said, a senior aide for that senator tried to tug open her wrap dress, which she had pinned closed, asking, “Why are you holding out on us?”

    Ms. Hudson, who is now 32 and works as a photographer, did not think to report the episode. She said she tried to brush it off because she felt that what had happened to her was not as bad as what had happened to others.

    She does remember feeling grateful when a male colleague who silently witnessed the episode pulled her aside privately to ask if she was all right.

    “How much of a patriarchal society do we live in that the person who came up to me in private and said, ‘Oh, are you O.K.?’ is the hero?” she asked.

    She paused.

    “That’s the nice guy in the story.”

    Kitty Bennett contributed research.
    Back to my point about politics, I'm wondering if we should take the 'Hollywood' out of the title of this thread because it's not at all limited to that. I don't really care to sully our forum with too much politics, but sexual misconduct is such a trending topic now, and I know it's not just me and Jimbo who are concerned about it.
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    More from Gal on Ratner

    Design Sifu & I caught the screener of Justice League last night (we'll have a review up on Friday).

    NOVEMBER 15, 2017 7:31am PT by Ashley Lee
    Gal Gadot Speaks Out on Brett Ratner and 'Wonder Woman'


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    "There's so many people involved in making this movie, and they all echo the same sentiments."
    Gal Gadot has spoken on her stance regarding Brett Ratner.

    The star of Wonder Woman was recently said to be refusing to sign on for a sequel if it involved Ratner, who has been plagued with sexual harassment and misconduct allegations. Ratner's RatPac-Dune Entertainment co-financed the initial superhero hit through its slate financing deal with Warner Bros., but such ties have since been severed.

    While speaking with Today's Savannah Guthrie, Gadot commented on the removal of Ratner from the Wonder Woman follow-up. "At the end of the day, a lot has been written about my views and the way that I feel, and everyone knows the way that I feel because I'm not hiding anything," she said. "But the truth is, there's so many people involved in making this movie, and they all echo the same sentiments."

    "Everyone knew what was the right thing to do, but there was nothing for me to actually come and say, because it was already done before this article came out," she added.

    Earlier this month, six women, including actresses Olivia Munn and Natasha Henstridge, detailed their experiences with Ratner in a Los Angeles Times exposé (Ratner's attorney Martin Singer denied all of the accusations in a 10-page letter to the Times). Warner Bros. will honor the financing deal through the end of its contract in March, as RatPac-Dune Entertainment is financing several films on the studio's upcoming slate: Justice League, the Owen Wilson-Ed Helms feature Father Figures, Clint Eastwood's 15:17 to Paris, the ensemble comedy Game Night, the Tomb Raider reboot and Steven Spielberg's adaptation of Ready Player One.
    Wonder Woman 2 & Hollywood's Open Secret
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneChing View Post
    I'm wondering if we should take the 'Hollywood' out of the title of this thread because it's not at all limited to that. I don't really care to sully our forum with too much politics, but sexual misconduct is such a trending topic now, and I know it's not just me and Jimbo who are concerned about it.
    Hi, Gene.

    Yes, sexual misconduct does go way beyond Hollywood/the entertainment industry (EI). However, it does seem that when it comes out in the EI, people take notice/interest. Probably because they want the salacious details on who/what/when/where, etc. Accounts of this have been happening for years, but for some reason only began taking off with Bill Cosby, then of course with the Weinstein thing. Because of the latter, that has now made this subject so prominent, and no longer apt to be buried in the back page; that accusations of sexual misconduct/molestation are opening up in politics, sports (Olympic gymnastics), etc., etc., are being brought to light.

    Now, I'm not saying that every single sexual harassment allegation is true. Obviously, false allegations exist. BUT, IMO, in these types of cases, leveling a false accusation against the types of people now being openly accused for the first time would be a terribly risky and stupid proposition. Meaning that most accusers stand little to gain and a lot to lose by falsely accusing men (and also some women) in power, or who at least have power over their chosen target(s). Those types of people who would level false accusations out of spite, or to gain some notoriety, are just as bad as perpetrators, as they damage the credibility of accusations that are true.

    There is also a lot of victim blaming going on in cases where it's pretty clear that the allegations are true. I don't think that such blamers have any concept of what abuse victims have endured, and how much courage it takes to come forward. I've personally known people (women AND at least one man) who were sexually abused/raped as children, and have seen the effect it's had on their lives. Which is why I feel so strongly about this subject.

    I still think it's odd that what Corey Feldman and other, mostly male former child actors have been saying for years is being overlooked in all this; pedophilia against boys by powerful men. It's also occurred outside of the EI; remember the Sandusky/Paterno scandal? This #metoo movement is still being seen as only a women's and girls' issue, when in reality the rabbit hole goes much deeper than that. I said this in my first post. It doesn't help that Rose McGowan seems to be blaming every male on the planet for either committing or abetting the rape and harassment of women.
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    Fair enough, Jimbo

    True - Hollywood is in the spotlight by definition. And also true that it's been accepted there - the 'casting couch' has been with it since the golden era of Hollywood studios. Although I'd argue that people tend to take notice when it's a politician or a religious leader because the hypocrisy is so glaring. We don't really expect Hollywood figures to abide by a moral code beyond what we'd apply to any citizen, not like the 'paragon of virtue' that is expected of a religious leader. And we all assume politicians are inherently corrupt, so that's more of an affirmation.

    So we'll let the post title stand, but I'm still going to post harassment cases outside of Hollywood here, just because it would get too muddy to start another thread.
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    Absolutely, Gene. Although it has 'Hollywood' in the title, this thread is open to all such stories.

    Do you remember a few years ago, there was a fundamentalist Christian politician (a congressman??) who was virulently anti-gay, yet was caught trying to initiate gay sex in a public restroom by pushing a note under the stall divider to another man? I also seem to recall another, similar politician, with similar beliefs, getting caught trying the same thing, under similar circumstances.

    Hypocrisy indeed.

    I don't believe anything that any politician and most religious leaders say, because most say what they do to promote whatever self-serving (or sectarian or party-serving) agenda they have. Even on the odd occasion they speak some truth, it's always mixed with falsities. This is true for both Republicans/conservatives and Democrats/"liberals". The whole political party thing is merely smoke and mirrors, anyway.

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    Larry Craig

    I think you're referring to Republican senator Larry Craig. He solicited an undercover cop in the men's room at the airport.
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    Yet more

    Jenny McCarthy: Steven Seagal followed me to my car, asked me not to tell
    By Matthew Wisner Published November 15, 2017 Media & Advertising FOXBusiness Opens a New Window.

    Jenny McCarthy recounts alleged sexual harassment at an audition with Steven Seagal

    Actress and 'Blondies' creator Jenny McCarthy on her new line of cocktails and the alleged sexual harassment she faced in Hollywood.
    The sexual harassment scandal in Hollywood that initially began with allegations against Harvey Weinstein continues to expand, revealing a seemingly industry-wide issue. Movie director Brett Ratner now faces multiple allegations while “One Tree Hill” creator and executive producer Mark Schwann was accused of sexual harassment by cast members including Sophia Bush and Hilarie Burton.

    Actress, model and “Blondies” creator Jenny McCarthy, who was also an MTV host like Hilarie Burton, discussed the alleged sexual harassment she faced in an audition with Steven Seagal when she began making the transition from modeling to acting.

    “I went into an audition and wore a long muumuu-type dress that he [Seagal] could pay attention to my eyes. I did, I looked like Mrs. Roper, you know because I wanted to be taken seriously, I was Playmate of the Year at the time and not many people take a Playmate of the Year seriously at all,” McCarthy told the FOX Business Network’s Maria Bartiromo on “Mornings with Maria.”

    According to McCarthy, Seagal commented on the dress.

    “He asked if I would lower my dress because my dress was too baggy and I said ‘no.’ And he said ‘well, there’s nudity in this movie.’”

    But when McCarthy countered that there was no nudity in the movie, she says Seagal replied “there’s off-camera nudity.”

    She says she then left after telling Seagal, “no…go ahead and pick up my Playboy video, it’s on sale.”

    But Seagal reportedly followed McCarthy to her car and said “don’t tell anyone.”

    After the audition McCarthy says she called her mom and vowed to tell the world once she became famous.

    When asked if she was surprised to hear about the allegations against Harvey Weinstein, McCarthy responded, “Not at all, I’m surprised it took so long though for the world to really start talking about it.”
    If it seems like I'm harping on Seagal the most with the Hollywood's Open Secret scandals, it's true. He's a martial artist. He's one of us. So I find this most repugnant. It's also true that in America, we're innocent until proven guilty, but the preponderance of evidence on Seagal's character is overwhelming. We need to clean our own house.
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