White Ape Exits Cave Application

[shanghai-mantis]

As Gene said this forum is on the verge of death, thought I'd share a video to try to breathe a little life back in

[GeneChing]

As Gene said this forum is on the verge of death, thought I'd share a video to try to breathe a little life back in

I appreciate the assist.

Do you have the Chinese for "White Ape Exits Cave"? I once learned a mantis form called "White Ape Steals the Peach", which was also a groin strike, but not this groin strike. I don't have the original Chinese but I could probably reconstruct it if I noodled about the web for a bit.

[Jimbo]

Do you have the Chinese for "White Ape Exits Cave"?

'Bai Yuan Chu Dong'. Maybe shanghai-mantis can post the Chinese characters for it?

[GeneChing]

'Bai Yuan Chu Dong'. Maybe shanghai-mantis can post the Chinese characters for it?

That was enough to find it online easily: 白猿出洞

[B.Tunks]

I appreciate the assist.

Do you have the Chinese for "White Ape Exits Cave"? I once learned a mantis form called "White Ape Steals the Peach", which was also a groin strike, but not this groin strike. I don't have the original Chinese but I could probably reconstruct it if I noodled about the web for a bit.

Hi Gene

The characters for the one you learned are 白猿偷桃. Did you pick that one up in Shandong from Yu Tianlu, or in the US? In Tanglang, the specific technique White Ape Steals the Peach is actually a knee (usually a jumping knee). The target is either the mid-section or the head, so the 'peach' in this case doesn't represent the groin as it does in some southern styles.

BT

[GeneChing]

Hi Gene

The characters for the one you learned are 白猿偷桃. Did you pick that one up in Shandong from Yu Tianlu, or in the US? In Tanglang, the specific technique White Ape Steals the Peach is actually a knee (usually a jumping knee). The target is either the mid-section or the head, so the 'peach' in this case doesn't represent the groin as it does in some southern styles.

BT

Cool. Actually, I picked that up from my first Sifu, Wing Lam. He had three mantis sets that he learned in Hong Kong but I never knew what the lineage was. It was among a few odd sets he learned doing some exchanges. He never claimed to be a mantis master but he'd share them to interested students. He taught bung bo to any of his intermediate students that were curious. He rarely taught White Ape. I had to pry that one out of him. And I can't even remember what the third one was or if anyone learned it. I'm not sure he remembered it. I remember his bung bo but not the White Ape set.

[B.Tunks]

Cool. Actually, I picked that up from my first Sifu, Wing Lam. He had three mantis sets that he learned in Hong Kong but I never knew what the lineage was. It was among a few odd sets he learned doing some exchanges. He never claimed to be a mantis master but he'd share them to interested students. He taught bung bo to any of his intermediate students that were curious. He rarely taught White Ape. I had to pry that one out of him. And I can't even remember what the third one was or if anyone learned it. I'm not sure he remembered it. I remember his bung bo but not the White Ape set.

Cheers. Interesting to see that many masters picked up Tanglang material on the side, beyond just the usual routines that were freely exchanged amongst Jingwu practitioners (such as beng bu/bong bo).

[GeneChing]

Cheers. Interesting to see that many masters picked up Tanglang material on the side, beyond just the usual routines that were freely exchanged amongst Jingwu practitioners (such as beng bu/bong bo).

Perhaps it's because mantis forms are generally pretty short. It's surely an explanation for why there's so much variation in Bengbu.

Funny this should come up now because I've been toying with writing a personal piece about this. It's a backburner article, for the web.

Beyond the mantis, Wing Lam had a few Chaquan forms too. Of course, that was on top of his Bak Sil Lum, Tai Chi and Hung Gar (he took up Bagua and Xingyi later when he discipled under Grandmaster Sun Jianyun). I imagine most masters pick up a few odds and ends along the way. Makes me wonder what mantis masters pick up on the side.