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    Don't **** off Lashley!

    Pro wrestler Lashley destroys Cook in 24 seconds

    By Steve Cofield

    Don't make fun of Bobby Lashley and his pro wrestling background. The former WWE star said he was incensed by the fact that his opponent Mike Cook came to the cage in a lucha libre mask a la Nacho Libre.

    Lashley is generally a polite, sportsman but he refused to touch gloves with Cook. He charged Cook in the opening seconds and missed with a huge right. Cook made the mistake of dropping his head. Lashley, a big MMA heavyweight at 6-foot-3, 249 pounds, grabbed onto Cook's head with his left arm. From there, he used his bulk to lean on Cook and it took just a few seconds for Cook to wilt under Lashley's weight. Lashley flattened out Cook (7-4) and re-positioned his right arm to cinch on a choke. Cook's legs could be seen quivering and referee John McCarthy had to step in to stop the fight (video). All that in just 24 seconds during Maximum Fighting Championship 21 at the River Cree Resort and Casino just outside Edmonton, Alberta

    "I’m here for business," said Lashley (3-0). "I’m here and everyone wants to and tries to make fun of the wrestling thing. I’m real. If they want to play around, I’ll knock them out or choke them out. And that’s what I did. I choked him out and made him pay. Now he can go put the mask back on and have fun with himself."

    Lashley, making the conversion from the fake stuff with Vince McMahon, started training mixed martial arts last year. He won his first fight in 41 seconds when Joshua Franklin couldn't continue after a Lashley elbow busted him open. His last time out in March, Lashley won a decision against veteran Jason Guida.

    Lashley needed to get through this fight unscathed because he has a stiff test against freakazoid Bob Sapp (pictured below on the right) right around the corner. Sapp, a former NFL player, NCAA All-American at Washington and a huge crossover star in Japan, is 6-4, 345. He doesn't have much stamina but he is dangerous for about 4-5 minutes. Sapp (10-3-1) and Lashley will meet on June 27 in Biloxi, Miss.



    Lashley is finished with the WWE but is still dabbling with pro wrestling with TNA. Former WWE champ Brock Lesnar also made a quick transition to MMA. After just three fights, he won the UFC's heavyweight title by downing all-time great Randy Couture. He defends his strap at UFC 100 in July against Frank Mir.
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    wait....what?

    If this is real, this just got interesting. My Lucha comment above was freakin prophesy!

    CM Punk Accepts the Green Ranger’s UFC Challenge!



    Jason David Frank, colloquially known as the Green Ranger Tommy Oliver from the television show Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, offered a challenge earlier this week to new UFC fighter Phillip Jack Brooks, better known as CM Punk.

    CM Punk recently announced he’d be trading in his WWE tights for 6 ounce gloves and a octagon shaped cage.

    When speaking with commentator Joe Rogan earlier in the week Punk confirmed reports that he had signed a lucrative contract to fight in the UFC.

    “I’d say my professional wrestling days are over. I’m sure I’m going to have to do plenty of wrestling [in the cage],” said Punk.

    Since the announcement, multiple UFC fighters, including the Green Ranger, have posted challenges to go toe-to-toe in a cage match. Fortunately for the Green Ranger, CM Punk decided to accept his offer, albeit only because Punks thinks Green Ranger won’t morph into anything representing a real challenge before their match next summer.

    Sources close to both fighters say they’ve been in cahoots since the Wizard World comic-con in promoting a future fight to take Screen Shot 2014-12-08 at 9.54.33 PMplace in 2015. Both have used Twitter and other social media to sell the match but could announce the fight officially as soon as next week.

    Frank and Punk, aged 41 and 36 respectively, don’t exactly bring new, youthful blood to the ring. But they certainly bring the notoriety to fill seats and create television revenue, which is what the UFC wants more than anything.
    I've lost track of the Green Ranger - this thread needs an update: Green-Power-Ranger-to-fight-MMA
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    My Lucha comment above was freakin prophesy!
    Then why don't you use your powers of prognostication and go straighten out the Anti Christ thread for us?
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    This is 100% TCMA principle. It may be used in non-TCMA also. Since I did learn it from TCMA, I have to say it's TCMA principle.
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    We should not use "TCMA is more than combat" as excuse for not "evolving".

    You can have Kung Fu in cooking, it really has nothing to do with fighting!

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    Wwe = mma

    CM Punk Claims That Mixed Martial Arts Is The Same As Pro Wrestling
    Mikey Traynor
    February 16, 2015

    Former WWE Superstar turned mixed martial artist CM Punk has been a divisive figure since Dana White announced that he had signed with the UFC. While some folks don’t really care about his inexperience and think the publicity he can bring will be good for the sport, others see his presence as a money-making gimmick, and diluting the talent in the world’s premier MMA organisation.



    Well now Punk has said something that will no doubt rub some people the wrong way, as he has not only compared the world of MMA to that of professional wrestling, but claimed that they are the same.

    I think MMA is pro wrestling. If you go back to the early 1900’s and the whole genesis of professional wrestling, and then you go back to the early beginnings of MMA, it was all pro wrestlers. The characters, the action, the media, the mouths. There’s a reason people are interested in this, whether it’s good or it’s bad, whether they love me or they hate me. I’ve talked to [Brock Lesnar] and he’s offered all his help, even if it’s just bug him with a stupid question. It’s cool to know he supports me. He’s a good guy to know.

    What do you reckon? Is Conor McGregor essentially ‘The Macho Man’ Randy Savage?

    And is Brock Lesnar the best person to ask for advice on the UFC?


    We’re not so sure.
    But what about Lucha Libre? Now that thar's figthin'!!!
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    Luchador

    This is a grim way to begin this post, but I've been a fan of Luchador for some time. Plus with El Rey's Lucha Underground, it seems to be getting more attention lately.
    There's a vid if you follow the link.

    CBS/APMarch 22, 2015, 8:13 AM
    Flying kick apparently leads to death of Mexican luchador

    MEXICO CITY - The son of a Mexican wrestling legend died early Saturday from a blow suffered in the ring, the Baja California state prosecutor's office said.

    Pedro Aguayo Ramirez, known as Hijo del Perro Aguayo, fell unconscious on the ropes, apparently after receiving a flying kick from fellow wrestler and former WWE superstar Oscar Gutierrez, known professionally as Rey Mysterio Jr., according to a chilling YouTube video of the match in a municipal auditorium in Tijuana.

    The match continued for almost two minutes before other participants and the referee realized Aguayo was seriously injured and tended to him.

    He was taken to a hospital a block away and died about 1:30 a.m., prosecutor's spokesman Raul Gutierrez said.

    "I have no words for this terrible news," Joaquin Roldan, director of the AAA wrestling federation, said through his Twitter account. "My sincerest condolences for the Aguayo Ramirez family."

    The state prosecutor's office said the cause of death, based on the autopsy, was trauma to the neck and a cervical fracture. It has opened an investigation into possible manslaughter.

    After news of Ramirez's death spread, Gutierrez took to social media to express his shock and sorrow at the event, and to express condolences to the deceased wrestler's family. In a tweet showing a picture of the two, Gutierrez said he was honored to have been in the ring for Ramirez's debut, calling him a "brother" and a "great legend."



    Tube el privilegio de compartir por primera ves un ring con el Hijo Del Perro Aguayo en su debut como luchador profesional y el Honor de estar en el Ring por ultima ves con esta Gran Leyenda! Te Extrañare Perrito RIP Perro Aguayo Jr.

    I had the privilege to share a ring for the first time with Hijo Del Perro Aguayo in his debut as a professional wrestler & an Honor to be in the Ring with this great Legend for the last time! You will be missed Perro:: RIP Perro Aguayo Jr.
    The company that reportedly organized the event, The Crash, couldn't be reached for comment. The Tijuana Boxing and Wrestling Commission called the death an unfortunate accident like those that occur in other high-risk sports.

    Even though the match continued as Aguayo hung listless on the ropes, commission President Juan Carlos Pelayo said people moved immediately to check his condition. He said the doctor in charge was not at ringside because he was treating another injured wrestler, but paramedics and a doctor who was a spectator attended to Aguayo.

    "The reaction for medical attention was quick, in my opinion," Pelayo said in a news conference Saturday.

    Mexico is famous for its colorful characters and costumes in professional wrestling, popularly known as lucha libre, where fighters perform daring aerial maneuvers inside and outside the ring.

    Aguayo, 35, had wrestled for 20 years and was the son of the legendary Pedro "Perro" Aguayo, now retired and a member of the Aztec lucha hall of fame.

    The younger Aguayo was also popular and led a group called "Los Perros de Mal," or the bad dogs. He won numerous titles, including national pairs with his father, a national heavyweight championship and the Consejo Mundial Lucha Libre world trios championship.

    "It makes me very sad because he was a professional colleague and I have great affection for his father," the wrestler Hijo del Santo said in a telephone interview. "I think the fans in Japan, the U.S. and Mexico, of course, where he was very popular, must be in mourning, especially because of his youth. He had much ahead of him."

    After news of his death spread, the wrestling community took to social media in an outpouring of grief.


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    Fascinating take on this from Muhammad "King Mo" Lawal

    There's a vid if you follow the link.

    'King Mo' Lawal on juggling combat sports: 'MMA is a lot easier than pro wrestling'
    By Brian Campbell Aug 11, 2017 • 5 min read

    When Bellator MMA light heavyweight Muhammad "King Mo" Lawal speaks out about something in the world of combat sports, there's little doubt he's coming from a place of knowledge.
    The former NCAA All-American wrestler at Oklahoma State was an MMA champion at 205 pounds with Strikeforce and is also a huge boxing fan who trains with coach Jeff Mayweather, the former pro boxer and uncle of Floyd Mayweather. Lawal also knows a thing or two about pro wrestling, having performed sporadically with TNA (Total Impact Wrestling) from 2012-2015.
    Lawal, 36, looked back on the difficulty of his original WWE tryout in 2007 during an appearance this week on CBS Sports' "In This Corner" podcast, remembering that initial feeling of taking his first bump.
    "I said this and I'm going to say it again -- MMA is a lot easier than pro wrestling. Hands down, hands down," Lawal said. "There are times that I fought three times in two nights [in MMA]. Whatever. And then I went home, took a week off and trained again. I did three matches in two days at OVW [Ohio Valley Wrestling, WWE's former development territory ] and I was sore for two and a half weeks. I mean sore. … That's when I realized maybe wrestling wasn't for me."
    Lawal turned down WWE's offer in 2007 and instead pursued an MMA career. But after UFC purchased the Strikeforce promotion in 2011 (dissolving it less than two years later), Lawal signed with Bellator in 2012 and simultaneously inked a deal with TNA to wrestle (both promotions aired on Spike TV).
    But back in 2007, "King Mo" admits he was a wide-eyed mark when he got off the plane in Kentucky for his WWE tryout alongside fellow prospect Brock Lesnar protege Brandon Eggum (now the University of Minnesota head wrestling coach). He was instantly put to work by the likes of coaches Tom Prichard, Jim Cornette and Al Snow.
    "The bumps were not a big thing, it's just hitting the ropes and taking a bump," Lawal said. "That's what got me because when you hit the ropes and you do that little shoulder tackle spot, I missed that a few times and hit the back of my head on the mat. And guess what you people, the mat isn't soft. It's wood, metal and a small piece of styrofoam.
    "In OVW, they have had the same ring and haven't changed nothing out of that ring since they first opened. So it's the same ring they had. I was hurting, the heels are hurting, my neck, back and hips."

    You can listen to the full interview with "King Mo" below.

    Coming from an amateur wrestling background, Lawal said he was "gung ho" and attempted to hit every move and spot at full speed while thinking, "the more you put in, the more quality you get out of it." But the physical grind caught up with him quick.
    "I'll never forget the second time around Al Snow had us doing five-hour workouts and practices," Lawal said. "Body slams, chops, jumping over the ropes and jumping through the ropes, and taking duplexes … I'll put it like this -- I got chopped 30 times during that workout and my chest was bleeding. They don't feel good at all."
    Lawal would later return to OVW, which became a TNA territory, after signing his deal. He went on to make occasional appearances for the promotion, including a special guest enforcer role in the Bobby Roode-James Storm street fight at Bound for Glory in 2012 and as a heel in Dixie Carter's "Team Dixie" stable in 2014.
    Looking back on his TNA run, Lawal likes to point out that it was AJ Styles, the former TNA star and current WWE United States champion, who secretly "borrowed" a finishing move from "King Mo" that is still a main part of his repertoire today as the calf crusher.
    "Let me put it like this -- AJ Styles stole my calf slicer move," Lawal said. "You can ask Al Snow, we were going over the move and I hit it in the match and got the submission win. Three weeks later, I see AJ Styles hit it. Now AJ Styles is a great wrestler so he can do whatever he wants."
    After a two-year break, Lawal returned to Impact Wrestling, which has been rebranded Global Force Wrestling, at Slammiversary XV in June when he was in the corner of Bobby Lashley, his MMA teammate at American Top Team in Florida. Lashley fought in the main event against current GFW champion Alberto El Patron.
    Lawal believes a return to pro wrestling is definitely in his future.
    "It's going to come back, man. Let me tell you, I put in that work," Lawal said. "I'm hoping that [GFW] will bring me back for some more. I've been talking to Jeff Jarrett. We'll see what's up. Him and Karen, they are cool people. Hopefully they can use me but if they don't, I'd love to go do some Ring of Honor."
    Lawal remains an ardent fan of wrestling and considers Cody Rhodes, Kenny Omega, Hangman Page and the Young Bucks as his favorite performers. No surprise considering his legitimate fighting background, he also prefers the styles of New Japan Pro Wrestling (NJPW), Ring of Honor and GFW as his favorite promotions.
    "You know why? Because they have more of an independent feel and they wrestle harder," Lawal said. "You see more variety of wrestling with higher spots. People call them spot monkeys but I enjoy watching them. You see different styles.
    "You see guys from AAA [in Mexico] and then you see guys from Lucha [Underground] and they are all together. And then you see BOLA [Battle of Los Angeles] over at PWG [Pro Wrestling Guerrilla]. I like that. I feel like WWE had the same thing with NXT but then once they go to the big stage [of WWE's main roster] things get watered down.
    "It's not just [overly] scripted but it's the style. I like the stiff and strong style like New Japan and Ring of Honor. And now you're starting to see it more with Global Force and hopefully WWE starts to catch up on that. The stiff style, the strong style is the way to go."
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    La LESIÓN de GOYA KONG

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    Sexy Star (Dulce Maria Garcia)

    I thought we had a Luchador thread distinct from our MMA & WWE thread but I couldn't find one, so I just made one copying the lucha-related posts. We do have one for Lucha Underground on El Rey Network.

    Former ‘Lucha Underground’ Wrestler Sexy Star to Make MMA Debut in Combate Americas (Exclusive)
    Dulce Maria Garcia was first-ever woman to win Lucha Underground Championship — and then came the Rosemary arm bar
    Tony Maglio | February 18, 2019 @ 11:00 AM


    Combate Americas

    Former “Lucha Underground” wrestler Sexy Star — real name Dulce Maria Garcia — is set to make her MMA debut in Hispanic mixed martial arts league Combate Americas, TheWrap has learned exclusively.

    Garcia is undefeated (5-0) in her professional boxing career, but she to this point has never competed under mixed martial arts rules. Well, she’s got a few coming up: Combate Americas has signed Garcia to an exclusive, multi-fight deal.

    Garcia’s first MMA fight is on Combate’s April 12 card in her hometown of Monterrey, Mexico.

    The 36-year-old Garcia is both an accomplished and controversial pro wrestler. First, the good: She was the first woman in history to win the Lucha Underground Championship, which is an inter-gender (meaning men can wrestle women) title. In addition to her squared-circle time on “Lucha Underground,” Sexy Star is a three-time Lucha Libre AAA worldwide champion.

    Now, the not so great: Sexy Star upset many wrestlers and promoters in Summer 2017, when a AAA TripleMania XXV four-way women’s match turned into a bit of a street fight — at least, between two competitors. Garcia was accused by another woman who wrestles under the ring name Rosemary of intentionally trying to injure her with an arm bar submission hold.

    Read more about the incident here. As you might imagine, the attention and press that match got didn’t help Sexy Star’s wrestling career.

    Garcia was not under contract with AAA at the time, her attorney told us. She was doing per-appearance wrestling at the time.

    Plus, Garcia left “Lucha Underground” before Season 3 because she wanted to box and pursue mixed martial arts, per her camp. The El Rey Network show/promotion wanted a two-year deal that wouldn’t allow for such flexibility, Garcia’s lawyer told us.

    “Lucha Underground” is a 60-minute (extra-)scripted professional wrestling show/drama on the Robert Rodriguez-owned cable channel. It premiered back in 2014, and has since amassed 127 episodes.
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    Does Sexy Star deserve her own thread soon?

    It's just a great title for a thread, ya know.

    Sexy Star Claims She Inspired WWE’s Women’s Revolution
    ELLE COLLINS 04.15.19


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    Some say Sexy Star started the Women’s Revolution. And by “some,” I mean pretty much just Sexy Star. The Mexican luchadora and former AAA and Lucha Underground star, who unmasked a couple of years back and is also known as Dulce García, has largely left wrestling behind after injuring Rosemary with a shoot armbar at TripleMania XXV in August 2017. She claimed it wasn’t her fault, but she basically became persona non grata in pro wrestling after that. She’s since moved on to MMA, and recently made her debut in Alberto Del Rio’s company Combate Americas.

    García gave a Spanish language interview to The Roman Show, and WrestlingInc translated some of her comments. She was asked if being the first woman to win the Lucha Underground Championship made an impact at WWE, and she quickly agreed that it did:
    I personally think that yes. WWE took notice. I am proud that they gave me that opportunity as a woman, as a Mexican and as a warrior. I felt they [WWE] found out that that had a big buzz all over the world. I think it inspired them to act.
    Of course, by the time that episode of Lucha Underground aired on November 16, 2016, the groundbreaking Triple Threat between Charlotte Flair, Sasha Banks, and Becky Lynch had already happened at WrestleMania 32, and it had been more than a year since Bayley and Sasha had main-evented NXT TakeOver: Respect after bringing the house down at NXT TakeOver: Brooklyn. So it seems like the revolution, slow as it might have been, was well underway.

    Showing her usual level of self-awareness, García went on to say that she’d love to join WWE, and would be particularly excited to face Ronda Rousey, whether in a wrestling or MMA context.

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    RIP Silver King

    Silver King dies during London wrestling fight
    By Matthew Robinson, CNN
    Updated 5:51 AM ET, Sun May 12, 2019


    Former WCW wrestler Silver King has died during a fight in London.

    London (CNN)Former WCW wrestler Silver King has died after collapsing during a fight in London.

    The 51-year-old Mexican, whose real name is César Barrón, was competing at a Lucha Libre wrestling show at the Roundhouse in London on Saturday evening when he died, organizers of the event confirmed.
    "Lucha Libre AAA Worldwide joins the grief that the Luchistica family has for the death of César Cuauhtémoc González Barrón 'Silver King'," Lucha Libre wrote on Twitter.
    Barrón was reprising the villainous role of Ramses for the event, which he previously played in the 2005 Hollywood comedy "Nacho Libre" alongside Jack Black. He is believed to have died from a heart attack, according to industry reports.
    The London Ambulance Service reported that two ambulances, an advanced paramedic and an incident response officer were dispatched to the venue after being called at 10.21pm. They stated that Barrón died at the scene, however.


    Silver King regularly portrayed the villainous role of Ramses, which he played in the 2005 Hollywood comedy "Nacho Libre."

    The Roundhouse confirmed that the incident had taken place and said the circumstances surrounding Barrón's death were being investigated.
    "Our thoughts and condolences are with his family, friends and all the Lucha Libre team," the venue said in a statement according to the UK's Press Association.
    London's Metropolitan Police stated that they are treating Barrón's death as "non-suspicious."
    WWE, the US professional wrestling organization, said in a statement that it was "saddened" by the news of Barrón's death. "WWE extends its deepest condolences to Silver King's family, friends and fans."


    Silver King celebrates after a win at the Roundhouse in London in 2008.

    Tributes also flooded in from fellow wrestlers. El Hijo del Santo, a fellow Mexican wrestler, wrote on Twitter: "I deeply regret the death of my great rival and partner in so many battles. He went as he wanted: fighting."
    Sean Waltman, a former WWE star, said: "It was an honor to have been friends and shared the ring with the great Silver King.
    "He truly was one of the greats and I'm heartbroken to learn of his passing."

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    Eric Bischoff, the former president of the World Championship Wrestling (WCW) organization, added: "I am saddened to hear about the passing of Silver King. Like so many of the great Luchadores that helped Americans appreciate Lucha Libre and make Nitro the success it was, he will be missed. Thank you and RIP."
    Barrón grew up in the Mexican wrestling family; his father, Dr Wagner, was a famous Luchador in the 1960s until a car accident halted his wrestling career. His brother also competed as a wrestler under the name, Dr. Wagner Junior.
    Barrón achieved worldwide success and performed for the WCW between 1997 and 2000, regularly appearing on its TV show WCW Monday Nitro.
    His highest-profile fight was for the WCW Cruiserweight Championship against Juventud Guerrera in 1998, which he ultimately lost.
    51. That's actually quite a lot of longevity for such a physical activity.
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    Blue Demon joins Disney Channel

    Superhero Action-Comedy Starring Blue Demon Jr. Gets Cast-Contingent Pilot Order At Disney Channel
    By Nellie Andreeva, Denise Petski
    January 21, 2020 4:19pm


    Photo by Marco Ugarte/AP/Shutterstock

    EXCLUSIVE: Disney Channel has given a cast-contingent pilot order to Ultra Violet & Blue Demon, a superhero coming-of-age luchador action-comedy from a girl’s point of view, starring and executive produced by Mexican luchador and professional wrestler Blue Demon Jr.


    Disney Channel

    Written/executive produced by Pokémon Detective Pikachu writers Dan Hernandez and Benji Samit, Ultra Violet & Blue Demon centers on 13-year-old Violet, who is stunned when a magical luchador mask “chooses” her to be the successor to her uncle, the famed luchador Blue Demon Jr. (Demon Jr., playing a version of himself) who is actually a secret superhero. Violet will now begin her own secret superhero training, all while having to navigate the universal ups and downs of coming-of-age while keeping her new alter-ego a secret.


    Dan Hernandez Benji Samit
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    The pilot greenlight is cast-contingent, largely on finding the young lead opposite Demon Jr. Casting is underway in Los Angeles and Mexico under the direction of casting director Carla Hool (Disney/Pixar’s Coco, Narcos). If a cast is locked in, the pilot would begin production in Los Angeles in a few months.

    Hernandez and Samit executive produce with Demon Jr. Dan Carrillo Levy, Eugenio Villamar and Jorge Castro co-executive produce. Alejandro Damiani is set to direct.

    Demon Jr. is the adopted son of the legendary original Blue Demon and is the first Mexican and the second masked wrestler to win the NWA World Heavyweight Championship.

    Hernandez and Samit co-wrote the screenplay for 2019’s Pokémon Detective Pikachu. The duo also recently served as consulting producers on The Tick and co-executive producers on One Day at a Time.
    Not to be confused with Disney+. ummm, at least I don't think so...
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