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ATENG,
Nope, I didn't misunderstand it. I misread it completely. I thought it said "everything, especially MMA, is CMA. Not the otherway round.
Bai He, a thousand apologies. Please don't hold it against me.
Word to the wise folks, don't post when you are tired and hungry!!!
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Rogue
"I agree about the blue belts Ed, but what happens if said blue belt does OK with his school? He attends a few seminars and promotes himself up to purple, this way he can promote his better students to blue. And so on."
this has happened. There is a guy in my area who was promoted to purple last month by royce. He has had several fighters in the ufc, dnagerzone and other nhb events. Two of his fighters are chris condo (dunno if he still fights, he lost in some early ufcs) and david ferguson. There are several others also. I think quinton jackson trained with him too.
"Just because I joke around sometimes doesn't mean I'm serious about kung-fu.
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seven, is that David Fergusson out of memphis, Tennesse? I know that guy! He beat one of my training partners (Dave Benefield) at the War Zone event (I was a judge at that one ) in a submission only match. Fergusson is a very good fighter, excellent ground game ,and I saw him fight in Hatteisburg MS also. Nice guy, great fighter.
A few of the guys at my gym said it was bad idea idea for Dave to fight Fergusson, he has a heck of reputation down here, guys I respect say hes real good.
"You guys have obviously never done any real fighting if you are mocking spitting"
Spinning Backfist
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SevenStar,
Sounds like he earned that purple if he is producing some pretty good guys. There is a guy where I train that got his purple a little after a year training there. He rolled twice a day, seven days a week, and competes in everything from submission tournaments and MMA events including King of the Cage and Gladiator Challange. If someone has the skills now I don't see why they should have to wait a few extra years for that belt.-ED
"Ninjas are not dangerous. They are more afraid of you than you are of them." --The Tick
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Agreed, GSD.
Jimmy, yeah, that's probably him. I don't know him, but I do know his BJJ coach, he's the guy I referred to in a different thread when I was talking about cross training in bjj. He knows his stuff, so hopefully I can get there soon.
"Just because I joke around sometimes doesn't mean I'm serious about kung-fu.
" - nightair
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seven theres another event (might not be called the War Zone) on January 12th down here. If you can make it to memphis, Im sure those guys will have a few fighters down here. If you can, let me know, Id like to meet you in real life, and invite you to our club to roll and spar. This is cool, we know someone in common!
"You guys have obviously never done any real fighting if you are mocking spitting"
Spinning Backfist
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There is a McMMA school here also. they teach a traditional MMA, called sho nin kwan do, which is a mix of ninjutsu, shotokan and TKD. He used to send his students to our school, and they would go back to his school and teach what they saw. consequently, he said that he knew kung fu also. The jerks even had the gall to open a school RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO OURS. When visitors left, they would chade behind them and give them pamphlets from their school. He talked a lot of noise about beating my sifu really badly, so my sifu challenged him - he didn't accept.
There was also a guy who taught what's commonly thought of as MMA - BJJ/sub grappling and muay thai - who taught in that school. They never badmouthed us, but they went into a local mma event talking alot of crap about how they would dominate everyone...All of them lost.
"Just because I joke around sometimes doesn't mean I'm serious about kung-fu.
" - nightair
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If I can make it to memphis? I live in memphis. Where will this be?
"Just because I joke around sometimes doesn't mean I'm serious about kung-fu.
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my bad I had the impression that you lived on the west coast.
It will be in BIloxi, Mississippi, on January 12. I know Fergusson will have a few of his guys down to fight (grady Hurley for sure), maybe you could hook up with them for a ride . IT salso not a bad area dowon here for a short get away - casinos, beaches, loose women, everything a man could want!
I didnt realize you were that close to me, my bad.
"You guys have obviously never done any real fighting if you are mocking spitting"
Spinning Backfist
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Don't get me wrong about the blue belt example, the guy I was learning from was a blue belt under Pedro Saure(sp?), and that was after training under a PS white belt back in the old days. I think eventually you will have people escalating their BJJ rank, or just dropping out, coming up with a name under the MMA banner and making themselves a black belt. What could drive this will be if MMA and BJJ become popular among the relative masses as tkd, kickboxing, jkd, even wing chun have, and the demand for instructors. Of course the general public will want to progress to black belt faster than traditional BJJ and will not want to train as hard as a real MMA fighter, and there will be someone willing to acamodate them.
The only hope is that BJJ and MMA don't catch fire with the general public.
Signed,
Rogue, Soke and Senior Grandmaster of Southeast American Brazillian Bagua Combat Chi jitsu Kempo Karate Do and Choral Society. (We are not affiliated with Southeast American Brazillian Bagua Jujitsu Kempo Karate Concepts, or Wan King Fist Kung Fu)
"Americans don't have the courage to come here," Mullah Mohammed Omar, leader of the Taliban
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Jimmy, did you say you live in Biloxi or paradise?
"Just because I joke around sometimes doesn't mean I'm serious about kung-fu.
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lol, paradise to some, I think
"You guys have obviously never done any real fighting if you are mocking spitting"
Spinning Backfist
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