Grappelers: Does the Guard/Mount expose the groin?

[fa_jing]

First, let me say that this is a real question. I'm not trying to put down grappling, in fact, if I had the time and the money I would love to study, probably BJJ. We do a little grappling in our school, when the fight goes to the ground, but I am pretty lost when this happens. My teacher does use the mount and guard on me, and I notice that sometimes his groin seems to be exposed. I will sometimes attack the groin with a light, gloved punch. He is pretty aware of this, and is able to deal, usually, but do those of you who train grappling more seriously practice to counter strikes to the groin? What is the strategy behind dealing with this? I want to know what to do if there are no rules protecting the groin. -FJ

[Budokan]

Sorry, but hitting the groin and imploding your opponent's testicles is against UFC rules.

K. Mark Hoover

[Ford Prefect]

You're safe when mounted on somebody, but I think the guard can leave you open sometimes.

[Water Dragon]

You can definately get to someone's groin when in their guard. Trick is, you have to have a decent guard pass first.

[Martial Joe]

When you are in some ones guard you can thow knees to the anus...which hurts very bad.

I have been kneed in the grundle(nifgin) and it wasnt even hard and it hurt real bad...

IXIJoe KaveyIXI
I am Sharky's main man...

[Badger]

Not in the first UFCs.In UFC 5 Keith Hackney put some serious nut-cracking punches on Joe Son.Keith should market his special peanut butter making machine.˙ :p


In the mount position you sink your groin into his stomach as well as rain punches on his fa ce.He will soon realize a groin shot will not save him from this position.more than likely it will just make the guy on top madder.

In the guard position you keep everything tight when you triangle or armlock him. A broken arm is more painful than a groin shot or a bite(for those of you who think you can escape a juji-game by biting the guys leg)

In the street being in the guard would heck if the badguy had a knife.The cross mount is great for weapon defense.

Badger

BJJ is Superior to Mullets!G

[chokeyouout2]

If you attempt to strike someones groin while in their guard you will probably set up for a sub.

When you'r telling one of your little stories, here's a idea; Have a point, it makes it so much more interesting for the reader.

[Water Dragon]

Like you've never tagged anyone there doing a standing guard pass :rolleyes:

[JWTAYLOR]

When in a nice, tight closed guard it is pretty hard to really hit the groin with any force. It's right up against you and he has control of your hips.

In a not so perfect guard, or a loose open guard, there are oppornunities to to hit the groin. I, for one, think you are better off throwing a hard palm down on the bladder, but either way the shots can be there. Weather they are worth the risk is a different argument altoghether.

JWT

If you pr!ck us, do we not bleed? If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge? If we are like you in the rest, we will resemble you in that the villany you teach me, I will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the instruction. MOV

[chokeyouout2]

I cant say that I have.You mean pop up with one hand on the sleeve and one on the lapel?Thats my standing pass.It's unstoppable:)Sometimes when I stand I try to step on peoples feet to come around the leg;maybe then but not really.

When you'r telling one of your little stories, here's a idea; Have a point, it makes it so much more interesting for the reader.

[Water Dragon]

No, we do a different one. When your in guard, shove a knee up against their butt. Now, you're gonna post up with the other leg and put your elbows into their inner thighs. Press down with your elbows to break WHILE your standing up. This is the point where you can crack them if they have a good guard. Otherwise, swing a leg out so you're in half guard and them work out of that.

[chokeyouout2]

I rarely do that one.it's a good pass to get the legs open but like you said it might end up in the half.Plus I don't even wanna think about getting swept.Don't you train with Brennan?

When you'r telling one of your little stories, here's a idea; Have a point, it makes it so much more interesting for the reader.

[Boulder Student]

Your groin is exposed, but if you are playing the guard effectively and staying active in the mount you shouldn't have a problem. I think you are more exposed trading strikes. More space to work with. I think the biggest exposure is to a groin bite if you screw up a triangle.

One must toughen up without losing one's tenderness.

[Water Dragon]

True, but remeber, I'm not a BJJ guy. I'm a Shaui Chiao guy who doesn't want to get caught with my pants down. I usually go for a stack from there so I can get away. With the nut shot, it's my patented Crack & Stack :D

[Water Dragon]

True, but remember, I'm not a BJJ guy. I'm a Shuai Chiao guy who doesn't want to get caught with my pants down. I usually go for a stack from there so I can get away. With the nut shot, it's my patented Crack & Stack :D