5 animals and Southern Styles

[Yum Cha]

Sorry to have overlooked this.

I had never heard the story of the fishing pole, but I love it. Thanks again for the info.

A 5 elements thread would be very welcome, but unfortunately, I'm not the person to start it. I'm too ignorant on the topic.

Perhaps some of you other Taoists / Pak Mei-ists would be willing to develop it further? It seems CLF also carries some of this philosophy... Hung Gar....

Once again, congratulations on the fine thread lads.

[mantis108]

Hi Cherrypraxis,

Definitely will futher on the I Ching discussions later. Thanks

Hi Yum Cha,

I think there was some relation between GM LYK and GM CLC. I believe they were cousins?

This thread is great. I guess we could have another thread about the 5 Elements later.

BTW, the fish pole story also inspired a Kung Fu move (not in Bak Mei though) and a lion dance chang (green).

Regards

Mantis108

[Yum Cha]

Yes, cousins was my understanding too, thanks for the confirmation.

Fishing Pole - does this figure into "Look Dim Boon Jao Sau Dio Yew" or

Half-past 6 left handed fishing pole?

I always wondered why it was called "fishing pole." Is this part of your training too?

[sanjia]

Mantis108 : My Sifu was the late Chow Fook. I am from one of the HK Lung Ying/Bak Mei Kwoon

A bit late on this but........
My teacher was also taught by Chow Fook, as well as Ho Bun Un.
We have a set which he attributes to him, I have heard it called Mui Fa (plum blossom) and simply Chow's set, do you have similar?
It seems to be a mixture of Bak Mei and Lung Ying (mostly a sub set of Mang Fu).

Mark S

[mantis108]

Hi Yum Cha,

No that's not in our curriculum. I can't help but notice you mentioned something on the Mang Fu Ha Shan thread that it impressed me as there seems to be a bit of Hung Fut influence in your lineage as well. Forgive me if I have mistaken, and I apologize in advance.

Sanjia,

Interesting, I have not heard of that. Love to see it someday. Thanks for the info. How's training? Please send my regards to your Sifu and everyone in your kwoon. Thanks

Regards

Mantis108

[Yum Cha]

Now you got me. I think you must be confused. I've been lurking on the Mang Fu Ha Shan thread, but have made no contribution, other than a wise crack or two.

Hung Fut? Wouldn't know it if I saw it.

[mantis108]

Hi Yum Cha,

I think I confused you with Eaz. Sorry, my friend.

Mantis108

[Oso]

Bit late on this as I haven't trained any southern in quite a while
so I don't hit these boards, but thought I would toss this in:

Tiger --- Earth
Crane --- Fire (air)
Leopard --- Wood
Snake --- Water
Dragon --- Gold (metal)

Dragon and Gold were the culmination of the art (hung gar)
and were supposed to bring the previous teachings together.
Dragon was all the animals and none, providing a mutability
factor to the mix and Gold could either be hard and sharp
as a blade or soft and hot like, well, molten gold. (maybe a
reference to early taoist alchemy???)

like i said, it's been over t 13 years since my hung gar training
and I only trained for 5 or 6 years but since I was given a slightly
different version of the animal/element pairing I thought I'd share.

Mantis 108, didn't know you were also a southern stylist.
I would definitely like to meet you one day, your posts are
always FULL of info. Yellowknife is a bit far away though!!

matt

[mantis108]

Thanks for the fine post.

Yeah, my first arts are Lung Ying and Bak Mei. Although now I major in Taiji Praying Mantis, I am always trying to stay in touch with my roots. I would love to meet you someday in person as well (haven't seen you online for awhile). Yellowknife is really out of the way. Thank God for the internet. LOL...

Take care, my friend.

Robert(Mantis108)

[tomcat]

Hey Mantis,
Great thread ,everyones knowledge here is so good , I'm sure I'm not the only one out here just reading along and being enlightened!
You should definatly start an I-ching and a 5-element theory thread!

[Bao Jong]

I have come to belive some of the SPM techniques originate from Hung Gar. For example the Yui Kui (shake off bridge) technique. Hope this helps.

[tomcat]

I think many of the southern styles use many of the same techniques,probably due to Shaolin origins,sharing of knowledge, and the fact that all systems tend to favour what works.
Many of the techniques found in Hung-gar ,are also in the S. Shaolin,Lohan,and CLF forms that I Know !