So, the limitation of the "ignore list" is that if we don't all do it and especially if you quote the person I ignore, the thread still gets derailed.

I've said this before, but I do what I do, not out of ignorance, but because I chose to. I'd love to be able to discuss it with knowable people and it seems like this would be a good place to do it. I know there are other people like me on here, if we would all ignore and disengage with people trying to prevent us from talking about CMA, then we might be able to make this work.

Alternatively, these forums need to be moderated, but it appears that's not going to happen.

So, individually using the ignore function is not enough, we're going to have to collectively do it if it's going to work. Just throwing it out there.