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    WTF? Time to be honest here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshiyahu View Post
    first off Stans innovations are different than the way my sifu trained me...These drills are very good against long range fighters or outside fighting. My Sifu didnt train us this way. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVXH9f1WMbY
    No, those are not good drills. IMO, that is the worst example of WC on youtube. The 'punches' (if you can call them that) were almost 2 feet away and it was all chasing hands on the defense. No root, no balance, no structure, nothing. I particularly liked when stan puts his hand on his hip and defends one handed with his 'skill'

    This is the problem I see with WCK today. People teaching others that clearly have no clue what they are doing. I sure hope what you do is vastly better than this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshiyahu View Post
    Again these or stans innovations. I didnt learn this applications...my applications are different than his. I also have my own innovations too..What works best for me i should say from actually sparring with people. Stans innovations are different...my sifu would drill the form...drill chi sau and drill sparring. from the sparring we try an apply different techniques we drilled. my pak sau drills are mostly outside. I usually pak sau from the outside unless i have to do a technique on the inside. I perfer the outside of my opponent. His Techinques have been tested in the street however so i cant take anything from it. If you think his techs dont work. I am sure he would be more than happy to spar with you when ur in saint louis?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtkaS...1&feature=plcp
    You're right, I know his techniques will not work if he trains like that. He is all chasing hands and leaning way fwd out of his root just so he can make contact with the horribly thrown 'punches' which have no energy in them. There is no innovation here. When I first saw these clips, I was sure this was just a joke. I wish it was, because if he's serious, that's a bigger joke than if it was intentional

    Tested in the street?? against who, a third grader?

    I think you would do better to not offer up challenge matches for someone else. Stan has enough problems without you adding to them.

    On a positive note, this clip does get my Best Youtube Line of 2011 Award though: "when he pak sau, he going to hurt your arm so bad you're going to pee pee on yourself"

    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshiyahu View Post
    these are more flowing drills. Where stan is throwing random punches. I have been on the receiving end of those punches. Believe me if you ever been hit by stan, you would know he is firing those punches for real. The reason why his son is backing away. Is because Stan is putting alot of power into those punches. i know because i been on the receiving in and felt his power. He is demostrating on how technique works against powerful punches.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVXH9...lcp&playnext=1
    When did Stan throw a punch? I didn't see any real 'punches' in that clip. He leaned fwd off balance a lot and stuck his fist out almost 2 feet away from his son's face, but those weren't punches. Maybe his son was backing away because he was embarrassed or because Stan far-ted or something? but not because of anything else stan was doing. IMO that was just terrible.

    If you think there is power in those punches,I am sorta feeling sorry for you. These are the worst WC training clips I've ever seen. If you think this represents good training or a validation of stans 'skill' then maybe now I can understand why you come here and ask so many questions..

    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshiyahu View Post
    Here is Stans SLT...It has some innovations with in but for the most part it is exactly like what he learn from Robert McField. Some Techniques are under exaggerated on youtube. But Stans is also placing emphasis on the applications of snake hand technique which is wider in his form and smaller in Joseph Chow. Stan is also emphasis the martial aspect of SLT not the chi gung cultivation. That is why his form is not slow in the beginning (Three Prayers to Buddha) Especially Wu Sau, Fok Sau Huen San cycle. Have you ever hit someone with a Fok Sau. It has enough power to drop someone if you have internal power and hit them at the right time. Timing is everything. He has the same constant speed so you can clearly see all the techniques in detail but he is emitting power at the end of each technique! My SLT is different...My Sifu taught me his innovated form of SLT and also have a standardize version with my innovations. Ne way. I still say if you want to judge stans WC i suggest you actually get up with him and spar. He will also chi sau if you like. But I think sparring with him would be more beneficial for you. Since his WC is designed for fighting. Specifically street fighting!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybN8e...0&feature=plcp

    Joseph Chow Siu Lien Tao
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPHZ0xrd5fY
    I'm not even going to comment on Stan's SNT clip, there's no need - it speaks for itself.

    I am really surprised that you find his clips to be good or that you think stan has any skill. I edited my original post because after laughing at these clips for a while it hit me that you might actually be serious and think this is what good WCK is. After that, I just don't know what to say..
    Last edited by JPinAZ; 01-10-2012 at 12:01 AM.
    What chi sau is, or isn't, or is, or wait, what is it..: http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/foru...2&postcount=90

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