I tottaly agree with jojutsu on this one, u know what really made me laugh was when i went to a will cheung seminar a while after this incident in cyprus he was teaching us the hidden ground fighting techniques of wing chungs advanced levels.

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Anyhow dont judge kung fu by what wing chun is like.

It like looking at the beach and saying oh the pacific or atlantic is tiny ....

Wing chun is one of the much poorer styles of kung fu