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    If the 5 elderly story of Shao Lin is taken as real. if Chisim is real then Ng Mui has to be real. Otherwise, we are being "filtering" information selectively.

    Then, as in the story,
    It doesnt make sense that ChiSim created Wing Chun kuen which was created by his School Sister Ng Mui. They have different type of arts as the story of shao Lin describe.







    In the history of Wing Chun kuen from various lineages, Ng Mui is either direct or indirectly related to Yim Wing Chun. and always connected with CRANE style.


    Out side the Wing Chun history, across the southern Chinese Martial art styles,

    Ng Mui was present as the 3rd or 4th generation student of Fujian White Crane art according to the Worldwide Fujian white crane big meeting years ago. and acknowlege that Wing Chun Kuen is an offspring of Fujian White CRane. This acknowlegement is rare that it endose the root of wing Chun with its 350 years old solid writing record history.


    A good question is, will any Shao Lin temple in China, be it from North or Southen willing to endose the Monk such and such which mention in some lineage's history to be thier Track-able student of the temple; where the type of Kung fu, and Zen's attainment recorded (such as attainment of Satori or mind seal...). And endose that Wing Chun Kuen is an art from that temple and very specifically show the martial art DNA on who, why where, when, what.... from that temple?





    (Note:

    Fujian White Crane is a true 350years art with both Qing gorvenment writing record and well documented interfamily record. it is strong art that in every generation of White Crane they produce great fighter. in the never passed White Crane had produce champion fighter in China and it also produce a fighter who is draw with the Famous Yee Chuan greator, Wang Xiang Zhai.

    Fujian White Crane contrasted to other southern martial arts system which has lots of claim but without any solid trace able record of the history and the interaction with the other martial art systems. )




    BTW, Fujian White Crane has term that echo the Ng Mui's identity to relate to Fujian White Crane.

    The term said
    Sam (three) Dim (points) Ng (five) Miu (plum) Fa (flower)

    or Three points five plum flower.







    In summary,
    the term "Ng Mui' does point to the Fujian white Crane.

    as,
    1, the three points five plum flower term
    2, The Fujian White Crane's family endose the existance of somebody name "Ng Mui"
    3, some Wing Chun Kuen kuit found in the Red boat era record clearly the classical term of Fujian White Crane.
    4, Some Wing Chun Kuen kuit found in the red boat era was written in Fujianese.

    3 and 4 also pointing to what is happing before 1850. we now can traced up to 1800 where White Crane of Fujian started a new Evolution where the Classical White Crane spin off into various crane lineage. we can also compare the Jing or power issuing before and after this evolution. and compare the SLT's techincal components with what happen in this era to see when is it very likely SLT was created. Before or after this fujian white crane evolution era.

    For the present searching, SLT is very likely design or created before the evolution of the fujian white crane started around 1800.






    Thus, the connection of Fujian White Crane with Wing Chun Kuen, be it from the view angle of 1, story of five elderly, 2, from technical DNA , or 3 from Lee Man Mau who was the leader of the Opera Uprising and the leader of the Red Bandana movement.

    Wing Chun kuen and Fujian White Crane's is very solid that cannot be denied.


    one of the mother components of Wing Chun Kuen is Fujian White Crane or Fu Jian Weng Chun White Crane kuen . WEng Chun is a place in Fujian not a Temple in this case.


    Thus, the story WCK related with "NG Mui " (whatever is her/his real name) from the red boat is very solidly point to the direction of Fujian White Crane. be it the story from YKS, Yip Man, Cho On, or Koo Loo lineage, they are telling the truth about the mother component.

    There is no reason for WCners to have doubt about the teaching of these ancestors above.
    Last edited by yellowpikachu; 10-09-2004 at 10:49 AM.

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